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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Implement git-quiltimport
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:17:23 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m13bf95ixo.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vbqtxaj5k.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Tue, 16 May 2006 12:01:27 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> writes:

> ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
>
>>    Given the ugliness in -mm making it an error to have an
>>    non-attributed patch would result in people specifying --author
>>    when they really don't know who the author is, giving us much
>>    less reliable information.
>>
>>    Possibly what we need is an option to not make it an error so that
>>    people doing this kind of thing in their own trees have useful
>>    information.
>
> I agree it is probably a good way to error by default, optinally
> allowing to say "don't care".  I do not think Linus would pull
> from such a tree or trees branched from it into his official
> tree, so I do not think we would need to worry about commits
> with incomplete information propagating for this particular
> "gitified mm" usage.  But as a general purpose tool to produce
> "gitified quilt series" tree, we would.
>
> It depends on the expected use of the resulting gitified mm
> tree.
>
> If it is for an individual developer to futz with and tweak
> upon, and the end result from the work leaves such a "gitified
> quilt series" repository only as a patch form, then not having
> to figure out and specify authorship information to many patches
> is probably a plus; the information will not be part of the
> official history recorded elsewhere anyway.

So what we need for this case really is a way to mark the
commit objects in such a way that git-fetch or git-merge
would choke on the commit objects and refuse to merge.
That way the changes could not easily propagate in the wild.
Every user would at least have to specify a non-default option,
that Linus at least would never specify.

This scenario is how I have been primarily using such a tree.

> However, if it is to produce a reference git tree to point
> people at, (i.e. the quiltimport script is run once per a series
> by somebody and the result is published for public use), I would
> imagine we would want to have the attribution straight, so if
> the tool has to "guess", it should either error out or go
> interactive and ask.

Reasonable.  Going interactive is probably the best way since it
appears that the patches do have sufficient information to derive
the user information from.  I know people have at various times
in the past made the Andrews tree available in git form so you
could do things like git-bisect, etc.  So I think we need to address
this issue.  Probably by at least asking Andrew about it.

I will take a look at the policy and see what I can do.  At
the very least the default we be to error on such a tree.

..

A infrastructure question came to me when looking at this:
several of the patches are from a branch with several authors.
How do we specify a commit in git with several authors?

There are cases when you have enough collaboration that even
a single patch could have multiple authors, contributing equally.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-17  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-16 16:51 [PATCH] Implement git-quiltimport Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-16 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-16 17:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-16 19:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-17  5:17       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-05-17  5:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-17 18:44           ` [PATCH] Implement git-quiltimport (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-17 18:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-17 19:20               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-17 23:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-18 10:48                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 23:58                     ` Greg KH
2006-05-20  2:42                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-20 21:32                         ` Greg KH
2006-05-21  0:36                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-21  0:41                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-21  0:59                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-21  1:02                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-05-21  1:16                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-01 19:23                             ` Greg KH
2006-06-02  0:24                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19  9:55                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-17 20:10               ` [PATCH] Implement a --dry-run option to git-quiltimport Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-17 14:28         ` [PATCH] Implement git-quiltimport Linus Torvalds

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