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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: siginfo_t ABI break on sparc64 from si_addr_lsb move 3y ago
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:08:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m15z031z0a.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0+uKYwL1NhY6Hvtieghba2hKYGD6hcKx5n8=4Gtt+pHA@mail.gmail.com> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2021 22:48:40 +0200")

Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 7:23 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> > Which option do you prefer? Are there better options?
>>
>> Personally the most important thing to have is a single definition
>> shared by all architectures so that we consolidate testing.
>>
>> A little piece of me cries a little whenever I see how badly we
>> implemented the POSIX design.  As specified by POSIX the fields can be
>> place in siginfo such that 32bit and 64bit share a common definition.
>> Unfortunately we did not addpadding after si_addr on 32bit to
>> accommodate a 64bit si_addr.
>>
>> I find it unfortunate that we are adding yet another definition that
>> requires translation between 32bit and 64bit, but I am glad
>> that at least the translation is not architecture specific.  That common
>> definition is what has allowed this potential issue to be caught
>> and that makes me very happy to see.
>>
>> Let's go with Option 3.
>>
>> Confirm BUS_MCEERR_AR, BUS_MCEERR_AO, SEGV_BNDERR, SEGV_PKUERR are not
>> in use on any architecture that defines __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO, and then fixup
>> the userspace definitions of these fields.
>>
>> To the kernel I would add some BUILD_BUG_ON's to whatever the best
>> maintained architecture (sparc64?) that implements __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO just
>> to confirm we don't create future regressions by accident.
>>
>> I did a quick search and the architectures that define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO
>> are sparc, mips, and alpha.  All have 64bit implementations.
>
> I think you (slightly) misread: mips has "#undef __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO", not
> "#define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO". This means it's only sparc and
> alpha.
>
> I can see that the alpha instance was added to the kernel during linux-2.5,
> but never made it into the glibc or uclibc copy of the struct definition, and
> musl doesn't support alpha or sparc. Debian codesearch only turns up
> sparc (and BSD) references to si_trapno.



>> I did a quick search and the architectures that define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO
>> are sparc, mips, and alpha.  All have 64bit implementations.  A further
>> quick search shows that none of those architectures have faults that
>> use BUS_MCEERR_AR, BUS_MCEERR_AO, SEGV_BNDERR, SEGV_PKUERR, nor do
>> they appear to use mm/memory-failure.c
>>
>> So it doesn't look like we have an ABI regression to fix.
>
> Even better!
>
> So if sparc is the only user of _trapno and it uses none of the later
> fields in _sigfault, I wonder if we could take even more liberty at
> trying to have a slightly saner definition. Can you think of anything that
> might break if we put _trapno inside of the union along with _perf
> and _addr_lsb?

On sparc si_trapno is only set when SIGILL ILL_TRP is set.  So we can
limit si_trapno to that combination, and it should not be a problem for
a new signal/si_code pair to use that storage.  Precisely because it is
new.

Similarly on alpha si_trapno is only set for:

SIGFPE {FPE_INTOVF, FPE_INTDIV, FPE_FLTOVF, FPE_FLTDIV, FPE_FLTUND,
FPE_FLTINV, FPE_FLTRES, FPE_FLTUNK} and SIGTRAP {TRAP_UNK}.

Placing si_trapno into the union would also make the problem that the
union is pointer aligned a non-problem as then the union immediate
follows a pointer.

I hadn't had a chance to look before but we must deal with this.  The
definition of perf_sigtrap in 42dec9a936e7696bea1f27d3c5a0068cd9aa95fd
is broken on sparc, alpha, and ia64 as it bypasses the code in
kernel/signal.c that ensures the si_trapno or the ia64 special fields
are set.

Not to mention that perf_sigtrap appears to abuse si_errno.

The code is only safe if the analysis that says we can move si_trapno
and perhaps the ia64 fields into the union is correct.  It looks like
ia64 much more actively uses it's signal extension fields including for
SIGTRAP, so I am not at all certain the generic definition of
perf_sigtrap is safe on ia64.

> I suppose in theory sparc64 or alpha might start using the other
> fields in the future, and an application might be compiled against
> mismatched headers, but that is unlikely and is already broken
> with the current headers.

If we localize the use of si_trapno to just a few special cases on alpha
and sparc I think we don't even need to worry about breaking userspace
on any architecture.  It will complicate siginfo_layout, but it is a
complication that reflects reality.

I don't have a clue how any of this affects ia64.  Does perf work on
ia64?  Does perf work on sparc, and alpha?

If perf works on ia64 we need to take a hard look at what is going on
there as well.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-30 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29  7:48 siginfo_t ABI break on sparc64 from si_addr_lsb move 3y ago Marco Elver
2021-04-29 17:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-29 18:46   ` Marco Elver
2021-04-29 20:48   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-30 17:08     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2021-04-30 19:07       ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 20:15         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:50           ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 22:49         ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:50           ` [PATCH 1/3] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:31             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:27               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:54           ` [PATCH 2/3] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:19             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:33             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:24               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:55           ` [PATCH 3/3] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:33             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 22:56           ` [PATCH 4/3] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:23           ` Is perf_sigtrap synchronous? Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01  0:28             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:42           ` [PATCH 5/3] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:35             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:43           ` [PATCH 6/3] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:45             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:43           ` [PATCH 7/3] signal: Deliver all of the perf_data in si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:47             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:39               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-02 19:13                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-03 12:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-03 19:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 19:53                     ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:47           ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01  0:37             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-01 15:16               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 16:24                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-03 20:25                   ` [PATCH 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 20:38                     ` [PATCH 01/12] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 02/12] arm: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 03/12] arm64: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 04/12] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 05/12] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 06/12] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 07/12] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 08/12] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 09/12] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 10/12] signal: Redefine signinfo so 64bit fields are possible Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 21:04                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 22:47                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-04  3:42                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-04  4:03                               ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-05-04  9:52                                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-04 16:16                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 11/12] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 12/12] signalfd: Remove SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-04 21:13                     ` [PATCH v3 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-04 22:05                       ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-05 14:10                       ` [PATCH v3 01/12] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 02/12] arm: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 03/12] arm64: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 04/12] signal: Verify the alignment and size of siginfo_t Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:24                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 05/12] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 06/12] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 07/12] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 08/12] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 09/12] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:26                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 10/12] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:26                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-06 10:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-05 14:11                         ` [PATCH v3 11/12] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:27                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:11                         ` [PATCH v3 12/12] signalfd: Remove SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:27                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 17:28                       ` [PATCH v3 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Marco Elver
2021-05-06  7:00                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-05-06 10:43                         ` Marco Elver
2021-05-06 15:28                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-06 15:14                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14  4:54                       ` [GIT PULL] siginfo: ABI fixes for v5.13-rc2 Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14 19:14                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-14 21:15                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14 22:38                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-16  7:40                         ` Ingo Molnar
2021-05-17 15:29                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-21 14:59                         ` [GIT PULL] siginfo: ABI fixes for v5.13-rc3 Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-21 16:34                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-05-17 19:56                       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] siginfo: ABI fixes for TRAP_PERF Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-17 19:57                         ` [PATCH v4 1/5] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 2/5] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 3/5] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 4/5] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 5/5] signalfd: Remove SIL_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 20:53                         ` [PATCH v4 0/5] siginfo: ABI fixes for TRAP_PERF Marco Elver
2021-05-18  3:46                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-18  6:44                             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-01 16:26               ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:09           ` [PATCH 0/6] Final si_trapno bits Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 1/6] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 2/6] arm: " Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: " Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:12             ` [PATCH 4/6] signal/sparc: si_trapno is only used with SIGILL ILL_ILLTRP Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:49               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:12             ` [PATCH 5/6] signal/alpha: si_trapno is only used with SIGFPE and SIGTRAP TRAP_UNK Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:48               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:13             ` [PATCH 6/6] signal: Remove the generic __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO support Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:48               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-16 11:50             ` [PATCH 0/6] Final si_trapno bits Marco Elver
2021-07-16 16:08               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 17:15                 ` Marco Elver
2021-07-16 16:06             ` [PATCH 7/7] signal: Verify the alignment and size of siginfo_t Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 16:07             ` [PATCH 8/6] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 20:43       ` siginfo_t ABI break on sparc64 from si_addr_lsb move 3y ago Arnd Bergmann

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