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From: Christophe de Dinechin <dinechin@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	mreitz@redhat.com, abologna@redhat.com, den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:59:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1mufsdktq.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3eded188-0161-d494-194c-9d67da644eb1@redhat.com>


John Snow writes:
[...]
>
> This might be OK to do right away, though.
>
> I asked Markus this not too long ago; do we want to amend the QAPI
> schema specification to allow commands to return with "Warning" strings,
> or "Deprecated" stings to allow in-band deprecation notices for cases
> like these?
>
> example:
>
> { "return": {},
>   "deprecated": True,
>   "warning": "Omitting filter-node-name parameter is deprecated, it will
> be required in the future"
> }
>
> There's no "error" key, so this should be recognized as success by
> compatible clients, but they'll definitely see the extra information.
>
> Part of my motivation is to facilitate a more aggressive deprecation of
> legacy features by ensuring that we are able to rigorously notify users
> through any means that they need to adjust their scripts.

I like this approach even if there is no consumer today. It does not
hurt, and it is indeed a motivation to develop consumers that care.

I personally find this much easier to swallow than any kind of crash on
deprecation, which already at the BoF seemed like a really big hammer to
kill a fly.

CC'ing Andrea as well, because we discussed recently about how to deal
with error checking in general, and if a new error checking framework is
being put in place, adding deprecation to the thinking could be a good
idea.

--
Cheers,
Christophe de Dinechin (IRC c3d)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 10:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate implicit filters Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qapi: deprecate drive-mirror and drive-backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 19:22   ` John Snow
2019-08-15  7:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Peter Krempa
2019-08-15 21:24       ` John Snow
2019-08-14 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 19:27   ` John Snow
2019-08-14 20:34     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Maxim Levitsky
2019-08-15 10:49     ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2019-08-15 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Peter Krempa
2019-08-15 14:04         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-29 16:45           ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-29 17:57             ` John Snow
2019-08-30 10:07               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-30 18:11                 ` John Snow
2019-09-02 12:04                   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-22  8:41             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22 11:32               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-15 16:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2019-08-15 16:48         ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-15 17:33           ` John Snow
2019-08-15 19:24           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-16  8:20             ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-16 12:33               ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-16 12:58                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-15 14:16     ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients (was: [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-15 17:40       ` John Snow
2019-11-07 18:52         ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-11-07 19:13           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08  6:41             ` Deprecating stuff for 4.2 (was: [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients) Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08  9:36               ` Deprecating stuff for 4.2 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08  8:35             ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients Max Reitz
2019-08-29 15:59     ` Christophe de Dinechin [this message]
2019-08-29 17:18       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters John Snow
2019-08-23  9:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-27 20:12     ` John Snow
2019-08-28  9:20       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-28 17:48         ` John Snow
2019-08-29 14:44           ` Peter Krempa
2019-08-29 15:17             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-29 17:50               ` John Snow
2019-08-29 15:00           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-29 15:16             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-09-02 12:14     ` Kevin Wolf

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