From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:32:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1mylim4e6.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440806181749g2faf1892iea693717ea919631@mail.gmail.com> (Yinghai Lu's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:49:16 -0700")
"Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> make mptable to be consistent to acpi routing, so we could
>>> >> 1. kexec kernel with acpi=off
>>> >> 2. workaround BIOS that acpi routing is working, but mptable is not right.
>>> >> so can use kernel/kexec to start other os that doesn't have good acpi
> support
>>> >
>>> > Is this an effort to boot an ACPI-mode kernel,
>>> > and then kexec a non-ACPI kernel?
>>>
>>> Yes,
>>
>> Why is this feature needed?
>> There are a number of ways that the resulting kernel may fail,
>> all platform specific.
>
> other os still doesn't have update acpi irq routing support. but has
> broken mptable.
Which is at least in part a reason to go back to the BIOS manufacturer
and get them to fix their table.
I can see a warning coming from the kernel if these two tables are inconsistent
though.
>>> > Doing so could confuse the heck out of the platform firmware,
>>> > which will think that an ACPI-mode kernel is still running.
>>> >
>>> > Note that it is a historic artifact, now considered a bug,
>>> > that ACPI uses the MPS code. We should be divorcing these
>>> > two bodies of code rather than mixing them further.
>>>
>>> how about adding config option to not compile mptable related info?
>>
>> That's the idea.
>> CONFIG_MPS=n CONFIG_ACPI=y should build and run on
>> every PC built in this century.
>>
>> This was prototyped a long while back, but the
>> tree has churned so much since then the old
>> prototype is worthless.
>
> will look at it tonight.
>
> when EFI is popular, there is no reason to compile mps related stuff
> in kernel again. esp for 64 bit.
? EFI has nothing to do with this. ACPI is popular today and EFI preserves
EFI.
> BTW, it is funny that Suse still has fallsafe boot entry with acpi=off.
Silly question. Given that even writing to this table is platform specific.
Any chance we can do this any a userspace utility writing through /dev/mem
for the systems that need it? We can even bundle the utility in the kexec-tools
package to make it easier to distribute.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-19 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200805041823.57198.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-05-06 17:38 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 17:41 ` [PATCH] x86: fixed mtrr change WP to WB Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 17:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 18:24 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 18:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 18:34 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 18:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 19:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 19:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 7:48 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-17 2:32 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-19 15:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-19 19:35 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v4 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-19 19:52 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v5 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-25 23:00 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v6 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-01 20:17 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 2:53 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 - fix Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 17:51 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 18:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-09 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 19:38 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 19:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-09 19:49 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-18 21:32 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 0:29 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 7:18 ` [PATCH] x86: let MPS support selectable Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 12:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 12:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 15:10 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-19 17:39 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 18:03 ` Len Brown
2008-06-19 18:48 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-26 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200806191213.10312.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-06-19 19:15 ` [PATCH] x86: fix compiling when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 14:42 ` [PATCH] x86: check command line " Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 15:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 15:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 15:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-20 23:11 ` [PATCH] x86: check command line when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-21 8:14 ` [PATCH] x86: clean up init_amd() Yinghai Lu
2008-06-24 12:12 ` [PATCH] x86: check command line when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set Pavel Machek
2008-06-26 8:23 ` Yinghai Lu
[not found] ` <200806200733.31477.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-06-20 15:03 ` [PATCH] x86: simplify x86_mpparse dependency check Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 15:31 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-19 12:13 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic v2 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-18 22:18 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 Len Brown
2008-06-18 22:32 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 0:33 ` Len Brown
2008-06-19 0:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 4:32 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-06-19 5:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-19 5:11 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 5:27 ` Len Brown
2008-06-19 6:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-19 7:31 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 18:16 ` Len Brown
2008-06-20 6:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 7:20 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 9:12 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-19 5:20 ` Len Brown
2008-06-19 6:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 6:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-19 6:35 ` Yinghai Lu
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