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From: ebiederman@uswest.net (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Generic deferred file writing
Date: 30 Dec 2000 17:26:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1pui9ph9p.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012301441350.1477-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: Linus Torvalds's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:44:56 -0800 (PST)"

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:

> On 30 Dec 2000, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > 
> > One other thing to think about for the VFS/MM layer is limiting the
> > total number of dirty pages in the system (to what disk pressure shows
> > the disk can handle), to keep system performance smooth when swapping.
> 
> This is a separate issue,  and I think that it is most closely tied in to
> the "RSS limit" kind of patches because of the memory mapping issues. If
> you've seen the RSS rlimit patch (it's been posted a few times this week),
> then you could think of that modified by a "Resident writable pages Set
> Size" approach. 

Building on the RSS limit approach sounds much simpler then they way
I was thinking.

> Not just for shared mappings - this is also an issue with
> limiting swapout.
> 
> (I actually don't think that RSS is all that interesting, it's really the
> "potentially dirty RSS" that counts for VM behaviour - everything else can
> be dropped easily enough)

Definitely.

Now the only tricky bit is how do we sense when we are overloading
the swap disks.  Well that is the next step.  I'll take a look
and see what it takes to keep statistics on dirty mapped pages.

Eric
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-31  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-30  0:25 test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  0:49 ` test13-pre6 Alexander Viro
2000-12-30  1:03   ` test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 18:09     ` test13-pre6 Alexander Viro
2000-12-30  2:25 ` test13-pre6 Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30  3:16   ` test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 18:58     ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30 20:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 20:06       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-30 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 21:10           ` Andreas Dilger
2000-12-30 21:46           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-30 23:12             ` Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30 22:00           ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-12-30 22:44             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31  0:26               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2000-12-31  1:02             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31  1:13               ` Chris Wedgwood
2000-12-31  1:50               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31  2:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31  2:09               ` Roman Zippel
2000-12-31  2:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 12:58                   ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-21 20:06                     ` Races in affs_unlink(), affs_rmdir() and affs_rename() Alexander Viro
2001-04-21 22:16                       ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-22  5:53                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-22 12:57                           ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-22 13:15                             ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31 14:38                   ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31 16:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 16:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31 16:51                       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31 17:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 18:30                   ` Daniel Phillips
2000-12-31 18:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 19:10                       ` Daniel Phillips
2000-12-31 19:31                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 21:03                       ` Roman Zippel
2000-12-31 21:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 18:27                   ` Chris Mason
2000-12-30  3:08 ` test13-pre6 (Fork Bug with Athlons? Temporary Fix) Byron Stanoszek
2000-12-30  3:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  5:55     ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-30  5:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  8:13   ` Graham Murray
2000-12-30  4:21 ` test13-pre6 Dan Aloni
2001-01-04 20:23 ` test13-pre6 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 22:15   ` test13-pre6 stewart
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012311726230.1671-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-01-01  2:50 ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Roman Zippel
2001-01-01  3:47   ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-01 12:44     ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-01 15:16       ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-02  3:00         ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-02  5:00           ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-02 16:53             ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-01 20:00     ` Daniel Phillips

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