From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] Resend -v2 - Use procfs to change a syscall behavior
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:43:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1tzeyd0x3.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080709221028.GA4926-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org> (Alexey Dobriyan's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:10:28 +0400")
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:24:22PM +0200, Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> # echo "LONG1 XX" > /proc/self/task/<my_tid>/next_syscall_data
>
> Same stuff.
>
> There is struct task_struct::did_exec , what about it?
>
> Also, patches are about de-serializing, how serializing from userspace looks
> like?
> You freezed group of processes, then what?
>
> How, for example, dump all VMAs correctly?
> [prepares counter-example]
Alexey userspace vs a kernel space implementation is the wrong argument.
It is clearly established that the current user space interfaces are
insufficient to do the job. So we need to implement something in the kernel.
Further I have heard of no one suggesting running a single kernel on multiple
machines. Therefore there no one seems to be doing this entirely in the kernel
and so we need a user space component.
So the question should not be user space vs. kernel space but can we build clean
interfaces for checkpoint/restart? What will those interfaces be?
Although I think it is good that we are seeing more people play with this as
that should mean that our pool of people for doing code review on the implementation
should be reasonable.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-10 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-08 11:24 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Resend -v2 - Use procfs to change a syscall behavior Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-07-08 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] adds the procfs facilities Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080708112457.994105000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-08 19:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-08 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] use next syscall data to predefine ipc objects ids Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080708112458.416998000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-08 19:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-08 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] use next syscall data to predefine process ids Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080708112458.946320000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-08 19:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-10 0:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1hcayfusi.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 8:32 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <4875C932.2020503-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 9:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-08 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] use next syscall data to change the behavior of IPC_SET Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080708112459.231249000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-08 19:56 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-08 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] use next syscall data to predefine the file descriptor value Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080708112459.632357000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-08 20:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080708201452.GE22904-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-09 5:00 ` kathys
[not found] ` <487445E4.6060107-8fk3Idey6ehBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 6:12 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <4875A849.1030206-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-14 4:58 ` kathys
2008-07-10 0:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1tzeyefz9.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 6:25 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <20080708112422.164370000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-09 22:10 ` [Devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] Resend -v2 - Use procfs to change a syscall behavior Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <20080709221028.GA4926-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
[not found] ` <m1tzeyd0x3.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 1:39 ` Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <20080710013915.GB8327-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 2:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-15 18:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-17 22:42 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <487FCAF0.70607-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-18 1:09 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <1216343365.4844.308.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-18 2:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-18 2:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 16:01 ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-10 0:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1lk0aefs1.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 9:54 ` Nadia Derbey
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