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From: John Fremlin <chief@bandits.org>
To: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
Cc: <torvalds@transmeta.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH(?): linux-2.4.4-pre2: fork should run child first
Date: 13 Apr 2001 22:08:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2bsq0se26.fsf@boreas.yi.org.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010412015516.A335@baldur.yggdrasil.com>
In-Reply-To: "Adam J. Richter"'s message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:55:16 -0700"

 "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com> writes:

[...]

> 	It turned out that the particular unix-like system on which
> these benchmarks were taken had a version of fork that did not run
> the child first.  As it was explained to me then, most of the time,
> the child process from a fork will do just a few things and then do
> an exec(), releasing its copy-on-write references to the parent's
> pages, and that is the big win of copy-on-write for fork() in practice.
> This oversight was considered a big embarassment for the operating
> system in question, so I won't name it here.
> 
> 	Guess why you're seeing this email.  That's right.  Linux-2.4.3's
> fork() does not run the child first.

Not always, if I understand correctly. Setting to always is putting
policy in kernel in a small way. If an app wants to fork and exec, it
should use *vfork* and exec, which is a performance win across many
OSs because the COW mappings don't even have to be set up, IIRC.

[...]

-- 

	http://www.penguinpowered.com/~vii

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-13 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-12  8:55 PATCH(?): linux-2.4.4-pre2: fork should run child first Adam J. Richter
2001-04-12 12:38 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-17  9:15   ` Éric Brunet
2001-04-17 14:26     ` Jesse Pollard
2001-04-17 15:32       ` Éric Brunet
2001-04-13 21:08 ` John Fremlin [this message]
2001-04-14  3:53 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14  4:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14 13:35     ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-12 13:44 Hubertus Franke
2001-04-12 19:15 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-12 19:45 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-13 16:28 Hubertus Franke
2001-04-13 23:51 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-14  1:54 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-14  2:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14  2:51     ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-14  2:52     ` Ulrich Drepper
2001-04-14  2:45 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-14  7:58 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-14  8:42 ` Michael O'Reilly
2001-04-14  9:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14 15:06   ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14 16:11 Adam J. Richter

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