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From: Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>
To: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Newbie questions
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:08:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2fzbfo5ri.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1B6h3W-0001FY-00@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk

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>>>>> "Steven" == Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>:
 >> I've just started looking at Xen and I have some questions. These
 >> are all fairly basic, as there is preciously little overview
 >> documentation (most of it seems to be fairly detailed).
 >>
 >> First of all, I'm coming from an UML (User-Mode Linux) and VMware
 >> background. I'm using UML for a number of things, and I'm generally
 >> happy with it, except for the performance and lack of suspend/resume
 >> functionality.

[...many interesting explanations snipped...]

 >> -- if yes, is it reasonable to expect that a patched (customized for
 >>    a laptop) kernel that includes swsusp2 and encryption (among
 >>    other things) will be able to support Xen?

 Steven> So encryption should not be a problem; swsusp2 might be
 Steven> depending on how much power-management support it requires. To
 Steven> try this out you'd need to build a xenolinux kernel from
 Steven> scratch (i.e. get the source, build xen, build a xenolinux tree
 Steven> (see HOWTO), patch xenolinux tree, cross fingers, build,
 Steven> boot...).

 Steven> Note that the xenolinux kernel is based on 2.4.25 -- there is
 Steven> no support for 2.6 as yet.

 >> -- is Xen at all suitable for the following usage scenario: a laptop
 >> host, with frequently changing networking, software suspend (via
 >> swsusp2), Xenolinux without real-world networking
 >> (e.g. host<->Xenolinux communication only)?

 Steven> Laptop is fine in general (several of us run xen and xenolinux
 Steven> on our laptops), although some funky laptops may cause problems
 Steven> (we support only a subset of device drivers in the current
 Steven> model)

[...]

Thanks a lot for your (and Ian Pratt's) answers. They have indeed helped
me a lot in understanding whan Xen is (and what it is not).

I was really looking for a way to make my virtual world persistent
(suspendable and preferably also snapshottable) and independent of the
crash of the day being served to me by Linux. In particular, the USB
subsystem in Linux ranks highly among the crappiest things I have to
use.

From your explanations it seems that Xen is designed for virtual hosting
environment and isn't really the way to go for me. UML (user-mode linux)
suits my needs better. Except it doesn't have suspend/resume
functionality. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait for that.

many thanks for your time,
--J.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-07 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25 21:32 Newbie questions Jan Rychter
2004-03-26  2:26 ` Steven Hand
2004-04-07 21:08   ` Jan Rychter [this message]
2004-04-08  6:45     ` Keir Fraser
2004-03-26  2:35 ` Ian Pratt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-06-18 16:31 Ethy H. Brito
2021-06-18 17:40 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-06-18 20:37   ` Ethy H. Brito
2021-06-22  1:28     ` Ethy H. Brito
2021-06-22  9:18       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2015-08-31  0:30 newbie questions Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-08-31  7:43 ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-31 12:50   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-08-31 12:54     ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-31 13:21       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-08-31 13:33         ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-31 14:26           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-08-31 14:38             ` Johannes Berg
2012-10-06 15:31 Newbie questions Mark Kampe
2012-10-07  0:08 ` Adam Nielsen
2012-10-07  0:34   ` Mark Kampe
2012-10-01 12:30 Adam Nielsen
2012-10-01 13:20 ` Joao Eduardo Luis
2012-10-01 16:13 ` Sage Weil
2012-10-06 15:05   ` Adam Nielsen
2005-11-01 17:33 Larry Alkoff
2005-11-02  5:41 ` Justin Zygmont
2005-11-03  0:55 ` Ralph Alvy
2005-11-03  4:12   ` Larry Alkoff
2005-11-03  6:17     ` Ralph Alvy
2005-11-03  7:32     ` John R. Sowden
2005-11-03 19:02       ` Larry Alkoff
2005-11-03 21:26         ` John R. Sowden
2005-11-04  3:45           ` Justin Zygmont
2005-11-05 17:06         ` Ralph Alvy
2005-11-05 19:25           ` Larry Alkoff
2005-11-06  0:42             ` Ralph Alvy
     [not found]           ` <436F5554.2030304@pobox.com>
     [not found]             ` <200511070723.31259.ralvy@warpmail.net>
2005-11-07 16:36               ` Alain
2005-11-09  7:46                 ` Ralph Alvy
2005-10-06 18:17 Gaurav Poothia
2005-10-06 21:04 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-10-06 22:05   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 18:12 Gaurav Poothia
2005-01-19 15:07 Scott Miller
2005-01-19 15:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-01-19 20:53   ` Scott Miller
2004-12-15 19:49 Newbie Questions Joseph Swaminathan
2004-12-15 20:23 ` Marco Gerards
2004-12-15 20:51   ` Joseph Swaminathan
2004-12-15 20:56     ` Marco Gerards
2002-08-03  4:10 Newbie questions Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
     [not found] ` <20020803041040.10310.qmail-L8+/D2FWflyA/QwVtaZbd3CJp6faPEW9@public.gmane.org>
2002-08-03 12:49   ` Axel Siebenwirth
     [not found] <200204070157.g371vDs24544@superglide.netfx-2000.net>
2002-04-25  8:10 ` Newbie Questions Daniel
2002-04-09 21:39 Gyzmobro
2002-04-09 22:14 ` Glynn Clements
2001-12-11 23:44 Slightly confuzed Charles Steinkuehler
2001-12-12 14:59 ` Newbie questions Charles Steinkuehler

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