From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7BDDEF1 for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 23:29:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju6Bs-0003Hz-JY for linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 13:29:44 +0000 Received: from p5497da3c.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.151.218.60]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2008 13:29:44 +0000 Received: from dzu by p5497da3c.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2008 13:29:44 +0000 To: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org From: Detlev Zundel Subject: Re: All your drivers are belong to us Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:28:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20080504204104.7eea7618@lappy.seanm.ca> <1209958719.21644.32.camel@pasglop> <20080505004023.05603b93@lappy.seanm.ca> <20080507174251.2af863d6@wally.pikatech.com> <20080507194957.47abb103@zod.rchland.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: news List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi, > On Wed, 7 May 2008 17:42:51 -0400 > Sean MacLennan wrote: > >> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:36:30 +0200 >> "Detlev Zundel" wrote: >> >> > It also happened that a driver once posted for what the customer >> > thought was a completely specific device of his own today supports >> > lots of different boards from at least four different manufacturers." >> > >> > The wording is of course not exact but I hope I caught the spirit of >> > what Greg wanted to say. So yes, please post the driver - maybe Greg >> > KH will tunnel it into mainline... >> >> I agree with the sentiment. However, it is hard enough to get >> legitimate drivers into the kernel. The drivers I mentioned do not >> come close to following the Linux kernel coding spec. > > Here's the cool part. There's this Linux driver project: > > http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view > > where they can take drivers like that and clean them up. At least to a > reasonable degree. The benefit for you is that once it's cleaned up, > it can go into the mainline kernel and it will just be there in future > releases. Helpful when you update. Yes, I should have mentioned this also in my original mail. If I remember correctly, Greg mentioned that in this project, he has *300* developers waiting to do something. None of the companies previously claiming Linux had a driver problem showed up even when he contacted them directly.... > Now, I can't say I've personally ever used that project but its mission > does seem pretty targeted towards groups that want to do the right > thing with respect to drivers. Maybe you could give it a shot and tell > others about the experience. This would definitely be interesting. Cheers Detlev -- -- Question authority! -- Yeah, says who? -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-40 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: dzu@denx.de