All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Rules for board/* directory, was: [PATCH v3] Adding support for DevKit8000
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2vdkh6tn2.fsf@ohwell.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8EC01F.7040307@googlemail.com> (Dirk Behme's message of "Fri,  21 Aug 2009 17:41:19 +0200")

Hi Dirk,

>> Well actually (I think) we agreed on doing the board/vendor scheme.  For
>> example look at board/amcc - there are all the AMCC evalboards basically
>> each one with a different SoC.  Turning this around into board/<soc>
>> would throw pieces all over the places, which is definitely not what we
>> want.
>
> Yes, I agree that it makes no sense to *completely* change the rule.
>
> Maybe we should just be a little bit more flexible about this rule and
> have look, where something else makes more sense.

I doubt that we can be more flexible with this rule without effectively
introducing another rule.  After all, that's what you say: "generally we
follow rule a, only if it doesn't make sense (which one cannot tell
beforehand) and then we follow rule b".

Such a "metarule" is not a big help - precisely because one cannot tell
beforehand which "sub-rule" is applicable.

>> Let's look at it from this perspective - on a board level there is
>> really more adhesion between two different cpu boards from one vendor
>> than between two same cpu boards from different vendors.  Just take the
>> AMCC boards - they all have the same feel to them, so this is the
>> natural way to group the boards.
>
> I could add the opposite example:
>
> A <vendor == TI> OMAP3 based board (e.g. Beagle) has no adhesion with
> a <vendor == TI> DaVinci board.

To which I reply - then TI should better shape up their U-Boot support
and get the boards in line ;)

>> Even more, sharing of stuff should be done outside of board/ - if it
>> applies to all omap3, common stuff should be in cpu/arm_cortexa8/omap3
>> and *not at all* below board/.
>
> Sounds like you propose to put omap3 *board* common stuff into *cpu*
> directory?

No way.  I only say that stuff which boards have in common *additional*
to what they share from their architecture *should* be very little.
Ideally a board/ directory is *very* light.  The heavyweight stuff
should be below cpu, drivers, etc.

>> Finding boards with the same architecture was always very easy by
>> grepping the include/config/* files.  We do not need a representation of
>> this fact below board/.
>
> But it wouldn't hurt?

It hurts if it stops us from having a single rule.

>> But still, we had this discussion already and I do not see that
>> anything fundamental has changed since the last time around, so
>> please let's not got into bike-shed painting right now ;)
>
> Could we agree to be more flexible with this rule?
>
> Or, the other way around:
>
> Independent of the rule, do you see any advantage of switching existing
>
> board/omap3/
> board/davinci/
>
> into something like
>
> board/DigiKey/beagle (or board/TI/beagle?)
> board/gumstix/overo
> board/mistral/evm (or board/TI/evm? )
> board/xx/pandora
> board/zz/zoom1
> board/yy/zoom2
>
> etc.?
>
> Except to follow the rule?

A rule is only good if it really helps to organize stuff.  So yes, I see
an advantage of the latter examples, namely that someone looking into
board/ has a single rule which will allow him to find what he is looking
for.

Cheers
  Detlev

-- 
I talk to planets baby
                                       -- Dave Wyndorf (Monstermagnet)
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,      MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich,  Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-40 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: dzu at denx.de

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-21 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 16:47 [U-Boot] [PATCH v3] Adding support for DevKit8000 Frederik Kriewitz
2009-08-20 17:02 ` Peter Tyser
2009-08-20 17:28   ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-20 18:37     ` Frederik Kriewitz
2009-08-20 20:20       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-08-21 13:00       ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-21 14:34         ` Peter Tyser
2009-08-21 15:08           ` [U-Boot] Rules for board/* directory, was: " Dirk Behme
2009-08-21 15:22             ` Detlev Zundel
2009-08-21 15:41               ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-21 16:04                 ` Detlev Zundel [this message]
2009-08-21 18:07                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-08-21 17:59               ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-08-21 23:27                 ` Frederik Kriewitz
2009-08-22  8:14                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-08-21 15:28             ` Peter Tyser

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m2vdkh6tn2.fsf@ohwell.denx.de \
    --to=dzu@denx.de \
    --cc=u-boot@lists.denx.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.