All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus@icculus.org>,
	"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FatELF patches...
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:33:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3aaz4hdkf.fsf@intrepid.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911021205540.12321@asgard.lang.hm> (david@lang.hm's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:11:39 -0800 (PST)")

david@lang.hm writes:

>> In terms on disk space on distro TFTP servers only. You'll need to
>> transfer more, both from user's and distro's POV (obviously). This one
>> simple fact alone is more than enough to forget the FatELF.
>
> it depends on if there is only one arch being downloaded ot not.

Well, from user's POV it may get close if the user downloads maybe 5
different archs out of all supported by the distro. Not very typical
I guess.

> it could be considerably cheaper for mirroring bandwidth.

Maybe (though it can be solved with the existing techniques).
What does now count - bandwidth consumed by users or by mirrors?

> Even if Alan
> is correct and distros have re-packaged everything so that the arch
> independant stuff is really in seperate packages, most
> mirroring/repository systems keep each distro release/arch in a
> seperate directory tree, so each of these arch-independant things gets
> copied multiple times.

If it was a (serious) problem (I think it's not), it could be easily
solved. Think rsync, sha1|256-based mirroring stuff etc.

> you don't have to compile multiple arches anymore than you have to
> provide any other support for that arch. FatELF is a way to bundle the
> binaries that you were already creating, not something to force you to
> support an arch you otherwise wouldn't (although if it did make it
> easy enough for you to do so that you started to support additional
> arches, that would be a good thing)

Not sure - longer compile times, longer downloads, no testing.

> if you have a 1M binary with 500M data, repeated for 5 arches it is
> not a win vs a single 505M FatELF package in all cases.

A real example of such binary maybe?
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-02 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30  2:19 FatELF patches Ryan C. Gordon
2009-10-30  5:42 ` Rayson Ho
2009-10-30 14:54   ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 19:20 ` David Hagood
2009-11-01 20:28   ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 20:59     ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 21:15       ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 21:35         ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02  4:58           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-02 15:14             ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-03 14:54               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-03 18:30                 ` Matt Thrailkill
2009-11-01 22:08         ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02  1:17           ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02  3:27             ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02  0:01       ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02  2:21         ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02  6:17           ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 18:18             ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:59               ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 19:08               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-11-02  6:27           ` David Miller
2009-11-02 15:32             ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02  9:16           ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 17:39             ` david
2009-11-02 17:44               ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 19:56               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-02 20:11                 ` david
2009-11-02 20:33                   ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2009-11-03  1:35                   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-11-02 15:40           ` Diego Calleja
2009-11-04 16:40           ` package managers [was: FatELF patches...] Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 16:54             ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 17:25               ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 17:48                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 18:46                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 19:46                     ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 20:04                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:27                         ` david
2009-11-04 20:02                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:08                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:41                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 21:11                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 21:32                             ` kevin granade
2009-11-04 22:05                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 22:19                                 ` Marcin Letyns
2009-11-04 22:28                                   ` david
2009-11-04 22:43                                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 23:55                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-05  2:24                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05  2:52                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                         ` <f42384a10911050134t37a0a812hd85ff5541423dc9f@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-05  9:35                                           ` Fwd: " Marcin Letyns
2009-11-10 11:40                                         ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 23:11                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05  0:05                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-10 11:57                     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 17:36             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:28             ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 17:52         ` FatELF patches Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:53           ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 20:13             ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-04  1:09               ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 11:27           ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:40             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 13:00               ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 13:19                 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 16:11       ` Chris Adams
2009-11-01 20:40   ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 10:04   ` Enrico Weigelt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-03  6:43 Eric Windisch
2009-11-03 11:21 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:10   ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:15     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:21 ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found] <dAPfP-5R6-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <dBOhH-uY-9@gated-at.bofh.it>

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m3aaz4hdkf.fsf@intrepid.localdomain \
    --to=khc@pm.waw.pl \
    --cc=alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=david@lang.hm \
    --cc=icculus@icculus.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mans@mansr.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.