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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC 00/22]: QMP: Convert savevm/loadvm/delvm
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:41:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3eii93iq6.fsf@trasno.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271797792-24571-1-git-send-email-lcapitulino@redhat.com> (Luiz Capitulino's message of "Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:09:30 -0300")

Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
>  Hi there,
>
>  Libvirt has a new snapshot API which uses savevm, loadvm and delvm, so we
> need to convert them to QMP.
>
>  I thought this wouldn't be difficult, but while doing and testing this work
> I hit a number of problems and had to made not so easy decisions.
>
>  Most of the time, the problem is that the handler implementation is not
> as consistent as it should be. Usually, this doesn't affect users very much
> but the headache begins when you have to make this available under QMP.
>
>  Here goes a list of macro issues/decisions. Details (and other small problems)
> in the patches.
>
>    1. Multiple failures: do_delvm() and do_savevm() report errors in a
>       QTAILQ_FOREACH() loop and they don't return when an error happens.
>
>       Although QMP will end up reporting only the first error, this is
>       considered a bug because handlers are not expected to continue
>       executing when an error happens.

I haven't looked at all the error cases, but I think that part of the
problem are devices like cdrom, that are by definition _non_
snapshotable  (what an ugly word).

>       There are two solutions:
>
>             1) Return right away in the first error
>             2) Identify fatal errors and only report those
>
>       I don't know the implications of doing 1) and don't know how to
>       to do 2) (although do_loadvm() works this way).
>
>       Can someone from the block layer help here?

Use case:  We want to save snapshot foo.  It can be:
- snapshot foo already exist in some device. What to do:
   - just fail and ask the user for other name
   - overwrite the name on the devices that already have it
   - any other good idea?

if we just fail the save, then we tell the user: devices bar1 and bar2
already have that snapshot name.  What to do?
- force the user to use a different name (not such a bad idea)
- ask the user to stop the vm and remove the snaphost from the ofended
  devices with qemu-img.  High avalavility people don't like to be
  forced to stop machines.
- delvm just ignore the devices that don't have the snapshot name
  (basically what we have now)
- we add a delvm_force or del_device_vm <device> <name> operations.\
- any other great idea?

Except where commented, I like the rest of the patches.  The loadvm is a
change that I don't agree with.  The StateVM name is something that I
can live with.

Thanks, Juan.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20 21:09 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/22]: QMP: Convert savevm/loadvm/delvm Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] QMP: Introduce RESUME event Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] savevm: Don't check the return of qemu_fopen_bdrv() Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] savevm: Introduce delete_snapshot() and use it Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] savevm: do_loadvm(): Always resume the VM Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-04-20 21:59     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21  8:36       ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 14:54         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 15:39           ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 15:42             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-22 13:33               ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 13:28   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 15:08     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 15:27       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 15:47         ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 15:45       ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 17:50         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] savevm: load_vmstate(): Return 'ret' on error Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] savevm: load_vmstate(): Improve error check Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] qemu-error: Introduce get_errno_string() Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21  8:28   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-21 13:38     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 14:42       ` malc
2010-04-21 15:12         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 15:15           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-21 15:29             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 17:13             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-04-22 13:44               ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-03 18:00     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 17:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-11 22:36       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_NO_DEVICE Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_DELETE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_CREATE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_ACTIVATE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] QError: New QERR_STATEVM_SAVE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:31   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-04-20 22:02     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] QError: New QERR_STATEVM_LOAD_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] QError: New QERR_DEVICE_NO_SNAPSHOT Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_NOT_FOUND Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] savevm: Convert delete_snapshot() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] savevm: delete_snapshot(): Remove unused parameter Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] savevm: Convert do_delvm() to QObject, QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 14:18   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-04-22 13:48     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-22 14:31       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] savevm: Convert do_savevm() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] savevm: Convert do_savevm() to QObject Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] savevm: Convert do_loadvm() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] savevm: Convert do_loadvm() to QObject Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:41 ` Juan Quintela [this message]

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