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From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: "Andi Kleen" <ak@suse.de>, "Robert Hancock" <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Black box flight recorder for Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:44:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k69xkygp.fsf@defiant.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0604100754340.25546@chaos.analogic.com> (linux-os@analogic.com's message of "Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:18:01 -0400")

"linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" <linux-os@analogic.com> writes:

> Further, in a boot where the BIOS needs to initialize hardware,
> It will write all RAM before enabling NMI. This makes sure that
> the parity bit(s) are set properly. Most BIOS will attempt to
> preserve RAM on a 'warm' boot as a throw-back to the '286 days
> with their above-1MB-memory-manager paged RAM because the
> only way to get back from protected mode to 16-bit real mode
> was a hardware reset.

I think there is no distinction WRT RAM test between cold and warm
boot anymore. If the BIOS clears the RAM is, I think, determined by
the "fast POST" option in BIOS setup (it always checks the size
so some bytes will be changed anyway).

> When using a memory-manager like DOS's
> HIMEM.SYS, you might actually be rebooting the machine hundreds
> of times per second!

Yes but it uses (or, rather, used) a CMOS flag to skip POST (not only
the RAM test) and to go directly to the entry point in real mode.

IIRC (I may be wrong, that was 15+ years ago) only 286 required
KBC reset to return to real mode (did LOADALL matter?), 386s have
no such problem.


BTW I understand the idea have nothing to do with actual aircraft,
so it would be the admin rather than NTSB looking at the data(?).
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-10 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5ZjEd-4ym-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <5ZlZk-7VF-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-04-08 14:05   ` Black box flight recorder for Linux Robert Hancock
2006-04-08  7:17     ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-08 16:28       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-04-08 22:28         ` JustFillBug
2006-04-09 17:09           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-04-10 18:53             ` Ville Herva
2006-04-09 15:04         ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-09 19:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-10 12:18       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-10 19:44         ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2006-04-10 20:07           ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-08 22:45 linux
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-08 11:12 James Courtier-Dutton
2006-04-08 13:41 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-08 19:42   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-04-08 16:40 ` Lee Revell
2006-04-08 17:30 ` Matti Aarnio
2006-04-09 19:23 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-04-10 12:01   ` Andy Green
2006-04-10 19:24     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-04-19 10:47       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-06 17:42     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-07  8:03       ` Jean Delvare
2006-06-07 10:18         ` Andy Green
2006-06-07 23:52           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-04-11 11:21   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-10  3:06 ` Russell Senior

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