From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54349 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OqQGr-0006z2-FW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:49:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQGm-0008WG-Hp for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:49:01 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:26005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQGm-0008W9-7F for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:48:56 -0400 From: Markus Armbruster References: <51ec99ce2db02aeb34ec6683a76895b4a127057d.1282886503.git.amit.shah@redhat.com> <20100827092945.GC22361@redhat.com> <4C77B209.6050902@codemonkey.ws> <20100827125827.GD22361@redhat.com> <20100827111507.5278eba3@doriath> <4C77D2EB.1030306@codemonkey.ws> <20100827130856.79869770@doriath> <4C780BD5.4030700@codemonkey.ws> <20100827162413.0235bcd0@doriath> <4C781412.6080303@codemonkey.ws> <4C7BCE19.30206@codemonkey.ws> <4C7BD085.3020100@codemonkey.ws> <20100830131602.2e846845@doriath> <4C7BDBCF.3090502@codemonkey.ws> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:48:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C7BDBCF.3090502@codemonkey.ws> (Anthony Liguori's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:26:55 -0500") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces? List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: qemu list , Luiz Capitulino , agl@us.ibm.com, Amit Shah , Paolo Bonzini Anthony Liguori writes: [...] > My position is that we aren't any closer to having compatible APIs > then we were with the human monitor. I think we need to focus on > compatibility and that that has to be solved as the QEMU interface > level. I contend that it's not solvable at the QMP level. We've argued from day 0 every step along the way. And here we are, one year later, still arguing about the very basics. There's a fundamental disagreement. I want to keep QMP the way it was designed: supporting compatible evolution. You want to remake it from the ground up as RPC to internal C interfaces. It seems exceedingly unlikely to me that we can agree on the wisdom of such a remake. We can repeat and elaborate on our arguments for a while, but let's face it: we want different things. I'm afraid I can't build you the thing you want. The best I can offer is to step out of the way and let you build it.