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From: Daniel Wittenberg <daniel-wittenberg@starken.com>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Proposal for reasonably secure GRE tunneling
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:16:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-lartc-101200441704676@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-lartc-101196067320644@msgid-missing>

Why not use encryption keys instead?  Because if you substitute crypto
key for password, then you have an IPSec tunnel. Besides, MS is moving
away from PPTP.  Take a look at 2k and XP, they have IPSec tunneling, so
that seems to be the right direction to go.

Dan

On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 06:23, Greg Scott wrote:

> After tossing and turning half the night, this idea came into my head:
> 
> It's really neat that we can set up GRE tunnels between Linux servers.
> Way cool, and thanks!  But lack of any kind of security is a problem.
> 
> What if we had a simple way to secure those GRE packets, or at least
> some means for the two VPN servers to authenticate each other?  
> 
> So this idea popped into my head that seems straightforward to implement.
> What if the system admin created accounts in both VPN servers, call them
> lanagre and lanbgre.  It would be up to the system admin to put in strong
> passwords in those accounts.  Both sides would each have both accounts,
> and it would be up to the system admins on both sides to make sure the
> passwords matched.
> 
> So then, when LAN A wants to connect to LAN B, the LAN A VPN server 
> would look up LAN B's password in LAN A's /etc/shadow file, put together
> a key based on that hash, and then use that key to encrypt traffic going
> across.  Similarly for LAN B.  Since both sides have both accounts, nobody
> needs to send passwords across the Internet.
> 
> If we had this in place, then Linux could do everything that Microsoft PPTP
> does, but Linux wouldn't make the same implementation mistakes
> Microsoft made.  
> 
> How tough would this be to do?  Does the idea make sense?
> 
> - Greg Scott
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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-25 12:23 [LARTC] Proposal for reasonably secure GRE tunneling Greg Scott
2002-01-26  0:16 ` Daniel Wittenberg [this message]
2002-01-26  1:53 ` Greg Scott

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