Re: [LARTC] Re: TOS useful???

["John Anthony Kazos Jr." <jkazos@vt.edu>]

I figure that, in the ideal situation, bandwidth throttling would occur on
a drop-by-drop basis. (That's the only way I can see to do it that can't
be abused, like the TOS fields can, to bring it back to that discussion.
;-)) In that ideal situation, what I plan to do (and, just to un-fluff the
feathers of sys-admins everywhere, at a not--continually-maximal bandiwdth
utilization) is to "reclaim" (read: fully utilize) any bandwidth wasted by
one person not fully using theirs, just as space is wasted if you have two
partitions with a filing system in each, which can't share files, rather
than a single partition, or two filing systems which can combine their
unused space. And by the sharing of services (not bandwidth; services)
amongst different rooms, a greater amount of idleness is maintained on
each, so peaks are taken care of handily, and usage is balanced over the
entire network. (In the *truly* ideal scenario, all users of the entire
network across campus, across a state, in the world, ad infinitum, would
share the same logical bandwidth with no waste. The "real" world is a
subset, or an approximation, of the ideal world.)

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Gerry Creager wrote:

> "John Anthony Kazos Jr." wrote:
> > 
> > Of course it does! :P In our dormitory rooms each person is intended to
> > use one 10-Base-T port, but we're going to run a box that connects to both
> > and balances the traffic across both. We're also going to set up similar
> > boxes in our friends' rooms, and balance the *services* between them.
> > We're going to squeeze out every ounce of bandwidth we can.
> > 
> > It's going to be fun, to say the least. :-)
> 
> Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!  Folks like you make bandwidth throlling by folks
> like me a necessity, to preserve what we have for the other campus
> users.  We have seen P2P activities drive us to 80+ percent utilization
> at times, with Napster-likes being the bulk thereof.  We've had servers
> and RPGs cause similar load problems, especially when we have a truly
> talented designer/developer pop up.
> 
> This isn't a tirade against the students, more a plea.  We're seeing
> bandwidth demand accellerate beyond our (as network managers') ability
> to increase supply.  Part of this is that bandwidth isn't free... nor
> even cheap... and we have to live on budgets based on what we
> anticipated 18 or so months ago, and the management above us in the food
> chain subsequently cut.  If we guessed wrong in either direction, our
> credibility was screwed and we can't get an increase next year...
> 
> Think about it.  This is a cool _ONE_TIME_ experiment, but if it ramps
> up, expect your name in the student newspaper as one of the reasons the
> bandwidth for your dorm was cut to 56kbps.
> 
> TTFN, gerry
> 


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