From: Oliver Neukum <Oliver.Neukum@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Which node has the device been bound to?
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 01:14:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-102289405908427@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-102266789207618@msgid-missing>
> > Do you think that it's wise to introduce yet another driver
> > specific file ?
>
> Not really, but it follows the way _all_ other tty drivers do it :)
Oh well.
> > > The driverfs changes that are slowly going into the tree might
> > > eventually help you out. Check out the changes that will be in 2.5.20
> > > for the usb tree (they look much like the pci tree in 2.5.19 if you
> > > want to compare that right now.)
> > >
> > > And how would you be able to determine uniquely each iPAQ anyway? Do
> > > they have unique USB serial numbers or would you want to determine the
> > > device based on the physical USB port it is plugged into on the host?
> >
> > You might not like it, but I still think that a standard ioctl() would
> > be the best way to export such information. Could you enlighten
> > me on how you want to make sure that the information you act on
> > is guaranteed to be current, if you do not base the mechanism
> > on the opened device ?
>
> Have you seen the way driverfs shows the usb and pci topology?
Fine for humans, which is not the issue here.
> And yes, you might be acting on old data. But if you have an ioctl()
> what would it return? A pointer to the topology location which might
> have just changed? I don't see how an ioctl() can solve this problem
> any different from the way driverfs is going about it. But I could be
> missing something. :)
An ioctl() would either return the actual topology information
or a unique token.
A name can change meaning. An open file cannot. It'll either
be what the ioctl() will tell you, or it'll be gone. If you operate on a
device that is gone the kernel will return an error and all is well.
If you parse what driverfs gives you, you operate on changing
data without a lock. I can see no way to change that.
Regards
Oliver
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-01 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-29 10:23 Which node has the device been bound to? Kim Deokhwan
2002-05-31 16:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-05-31 17:12 ` Dmitri
2002-05-31 18:26 ` Greg KH
2002-06-01 0:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-01 0:21 ` Greg KH
2002-06-01 1:14 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2002-06-03 18:00 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 21:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 21:58 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:46 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 23:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:16 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 23:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:50 ` Greg KH
2002-06-04 19:00 ` David Brownell
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