From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: MattS@ilx.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:01:35 +0000 Subject: Now that UltraLinux is Dead MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE9188.02E4FCF6" Message-Id: List-Id: To: ultralinux@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9188.02E4FCF6 Content-Type: text/plain Everyone seems to be shocked and/or dismayed that the UltraLinux project is no more..Since this decision has already been made, and seems unchangeable, I would like to turn to more practical matters and thank everyone who contributed to the project. I haven't been using UP for very long, but the experience I had was a very positive one, and I just bought two Old Sparc's to hack on because I enjoyed working w/ linux on the sparc so much. So, THANKS GUYS! (and girls?) Matt ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9188.02E4FCF6 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that UltraLinux is Dead

Everyone seems to be shocked and/or = dismayed that the UltraLinux project is no more..Since this decision = has already been made, and seems unchangeable, I would like to turn to = more practical matters and thank everyone who contributed to the = project. I haven't been using UP for very long, but the experience I = had was a very positive one, and I just bought two Old Sparc's to hack = on because I enjoyed working w/ linux on the sparc so much.

So,

   THANKS GUYS! (and = girls?)

Matt

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9188.02E4FCF6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jakub Jelinek Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:19:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Now that UltraLinux is Dead Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ultralinux@vger.kernel.org > Everyone seems to be shocked and/or dismayed that the UltraLinux project is > no more..Since this decision has already been made, and seems unchangeable, > I would like to turn to more practical matters and thank everyone who > contributed to the project. I haven't been using UP for very long, but the > experience I had was a very positive one, and I just bought two Old Sparc's > to hack on because I enjoyed working w/ linux on the sparc so much. UltraLinux project is definitely not dead, so you don't have to be shocked. We'll definitely continue working on Linux for SPARC machines (be it kernel work or userland stuff). The issue is just I spent quite a few hours a week maintaining a distribution, and those hours will be better spent hacking kernel, X servers, 64bit userland and other things. UltraPenguin was a distribution created so that users can easily try out what we hacked on. In 1.0, it was just a few packages changed against RedHat 4.2, 1.1 was a bunch of changes because at the time we created it there was no glibc based distribution for SPARCs, then RedHat came with glibc based 5.1 and later 5.2 and UltraPenguin 1.1.9 was that plus a bunch of changes we did during the time. Now it does not make sense to keep maintaining the whole distribution any longer. What we hack up will either David publish as RedHat errata (if it will be important bugfix), or we can publish it on my ftp site, but still as a single rpm or a couple of rpms you update into your distribution. And the upcoming changes like finally a real 64bit userland will hopefully appear in any distribution you will choice, be it RedHat X.Y or Debian Z.W. Cheers, Jakub ___________________________________________________________________ Jakub Jelinek | jj@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz | http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz Administrator of SunSITE Czech Republic, MFF, Charles University ___________________________________________________________________ UltraLinux | http://ultra.linux.cz/ | http://ultra.penguin.cz/ Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 machine (3958.37 BogoMips) ___________________________________________________________________ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: MattS@ilx.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:20:30 +0000 Subject: RE: Now that UltraLinux is Dead MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE918A.A6F5CD96" Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: ultralinux@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE918A.A6F5CD96 Content-Type: text/plain well, that's what I meant :) UltraPenguin. Not UltraLinux.. Sorry.. My mistake.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jakub Jelinek [SMTP:jj@sunsite.ms.mff.cuni.cz] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:20 AM > To: MattS@ilx.com > Cc: ultralinux@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: Re: Now that UltraLinux is Dead > > > Everyone seems to be shocked and/or dismayed that the UltraLinux project > is > > no more..Since this decision has already been made, and seems > unchangeable, > > I would like to turn to more practical matters and thank everyone who > > contributed to the project. I haven't been using UP for very long, but > the > > experience I had was a very positive one, and I just bought two Old > Sparc's > > to hack on because I enjoyed working w/ linux on the sparc so much. > > UltraLinux project is definitely not dead, so you don't have to be > shocked. > We'll definitely continue working on Linux for SPARC machines (be it > kernel > work or userland stuff). The issue is just I spent quite a few hours a > week > maintaining a distribution, and those hours will be better spent hacking > kernel, X servers, 64bit userland and other things. > > UltraPenguin was a distribution created so that users can easily try out > what we hacked on. In 1.0, it was just a few packages changed against > RedHat > 4.2, 1.1 was a bunch of changes because at the time we created it there > was > no glibc based distribution for SPARCs, then RedHat came with glibc based > 5.1 and later 5.2 and UltraPenguin 1.1.9 was that plus a bunch of changes > we > did during the time. Now it does not make sense to keep maintaining the > whole distribution any longer. What we hack up will either David publish > as > RedHat errata (if it will be important bugfix), or we can publish it on my > ftp site, but still as a single rpm or a couple of rpms you update into > your > distribution. And the upcoming changes like finally a real 64bit userland > will hopefully appear in any distribution you will choice, be it RedHat > X.Y > or Debian Z.W. > > Cheers, > Jakub > ___________________________________________________________________ > Jakub Jelinek | jj@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz | http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz > Administrator of SunSITE Czech Republic, MFF, Charles University > ___________________________________________________________________ > UltraLinux | http://ultra.linux.cz/ | http://ultra.penguin.cz/ > Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 machine (3958.37 BogoMips) > ___________________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE918A.A6F5CD96 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Now that UltraLinux is Dead

well, that's what I = meant :) UltraPenguin. Not UltraLinux.. Sorry.. My mistake..

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Jakub Jelinek = [SMTP:jj@sunsite.ms.mff.cuni.cz]
    Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:20 AM
    To:     MattS@ilx.com
    Cc:     ultralinux@vger.rutgers.edu
    Subject:       = Re: Now that UltraLinux is = Dead

    > Everyone seems to be shocked = and/or dismayed that the UltraLinux project is
    > no more..Since this decision has = already been made, and seems unchangeable,
    > I would like to turn to more = practical matters and thank everyone who
    > contributed to the project. I = haven't been using UP for very long, but the
    > experience I had was a very = positive one, and I just bought two Old Sparc's
    > to hack on because I enjoyed = working w/ linux on the sparc so much.

    UltraLinux project is definitely not = dead, so you don't have to be shocked.
    We'll definitely continue working on = Linux for SPARC machines (be it kernel
    work or userland stuff). The issue is = just I spent quite a few hours a week
    maintaining a distribution, and those = hours will be better spent hacking
    kernel, X servers, 64bit userland and = other things.

    UltraPenguin was a distribution = created so that users can easily try out
    what we hacked on. In 1.0, it was = just a few packages changed against RedHat
    4.2, 1.1 was a bunch of changes = because at the time we created it there was
    no glibc based distribution for = SPARCs, then RedHat came with glibc based
    5.1 and later 5.2 and UltraPenguin = 1.1.9 was that plus a bunch of changes we
    did during the time. Now it does not = make sense to keep maintaining the
    whole distribution any longer. What = we hack up will either David publish as
    RedHat errata (if it will be = important bugfix), or we can publish it on my
    ftp site, but still as a single rpm = or a couple of rpms you update into your
    distribution. And the upcoming = changes like finally a real 64bit userland
    will hopefully appear in any = distribution you will choice, be it RedHat X.Y
    or Debian Z.W.

    Cheers,
        Jakub
    _________________________________________________________= __________
    Jakub Jelinek | = jj@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz | http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz
    Administrator of SunSITE Czech = Republic, MFF, Charles University
    _________________________________________________________= __________
    UltraLinux  |  = http://ultra.linux.cz/  |  http://ultra.penguin.cz/
    Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 = machine (3958.37 BogoMips)
    _________________________________________________________= __________

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