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From: Ken Goldman <kgoldman-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] tpm2-space: add handling for global session exhaustion
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:42:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o6gese$pev$1@blaine.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1484772489.2396.2.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>

On 1/18/2017 3:48 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> In a TPM2, sessions can be globally exhausted once there are
> TPM_PT_ACTIVE_SESSION_MAX of them (even if they're all context saved).
> The Strategy for handling this is to keep a global count of all the
> sessions along with their creation time.  Then if we see the TPM run
> out of sessions (via the TPM_RC_SESSION_HANDLES) we first wait for one
> to become free, but if it doesn't, we forcibly evict an existing one.
> The eviction strategy waits until the current command is repeated to
> evict the session which should guarantee there is an available slot.

Beware the nasty corner case:

- Application asks for a session and gets 02000000

- Time elapses and 02000000 gets forcibly flushed

- Later, app comes back, asks for a second session and again gets 02000000.

- App gets very confused.

May it be better to close the connection completely, which the 
application can detect, than flush a session and give this corner case?

~~~~

Part of me says to defer this.  That is:

64 sessions / 3 = 21 simultaneous applications.  If we have 21 
simultaneous TCG applications, we'll all celebrate.  For the DoS,
chmod and chgrp /dev/tpm and let only well behaved applications in the 
group.

Agreed, it's not a long term solution.




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-27 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-18 20:48 [RFC] tpm2-space: add handling for global session exhaustion James Bottomley
2017-01-18 20:48 ` James Bottomley
     [not found] ` <1484772489.2396.2.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 12:25   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-19 12:25     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20170119122533.d7h5rgatpwl3qmcl-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 12:41       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-19 12:41         ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]         ` <20170119124101.nw7a7m735zhiivfo-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 21:20           ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-27 21:59             ` James Bottomley
2017-01-27 21:59               ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-19 12:59       ` James Bottomley
2017-01-19 12:59         ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-20 13:40         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-27 21:42   ` Ken Goldman [this message]
2017-01-27 22:04     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-27 22:04       ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
     [not found]       ` <1485554699.3229.20.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 23:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-27 23:35           ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20170127233513.GA28995-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 23:48             ` James Bottomley
2017-01-27 23:48               ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-30  0:52         ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-30  0:52           ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-30 16:04           ` James Bottomley
2017-01-30 16:04             ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
     [not found]             ` <1485792295.2518.23.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-30 21:58               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-30 21:58                 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                 ` <20170130215815.4lr42ob7e4cycwgi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-30 22:13                   ` James Bottomley
2017-01-30 22:13                     ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
     [not found]                     ` <1485814388.2518.28.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-30 22:46                       ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-31 13:31                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-31 13:31                         ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-10 17:22                       ` Kenneth Goldman
2017-01-31 19:28               ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-31 19:55                 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-31 19:55                   ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
     [not found] <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
2017-02-09  9:06 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
     [not found]   ` <201702090906.v1996c6a015552-DHO+NtfOqB5PEDpkEIzg7wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-09 15:19     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]       ` <20170209151922.cqo32h4io5dqyvvw-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-09 19:04         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20170209190426.GA1104-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-09 19:29             ` James Bottomley
     [not found]               ` <1486668591.2616.45.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-09 21:54                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-10  8:48           ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]             ` <20170210084837.lq3mofgfwvjx623m-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-10 23:13               ` Kenneth Goldman
2017-02-09 20:05     ` James Bottomley
     [not found] <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
2017-02-10 10:03 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
     [not found]   ` <201702101003.v1AA3plF029882-DHO+NtfOqB5PEDpkEIzg7wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-10 16:46     ` James Bottomley
     [not found]       ` <1486745163.2502.26.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-10 21:13         ` Kenneth Goldman
2017-02-14 14:38           ` [tpmdd-devel] " Dr. Greg Wettstein
     [not found]             ` <20170214143829.GA28175-DHO+NtfOqB5PEDpkEIzg7wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-14 16:47               ` James Bottomley
2017-02-10 21:18         ` Kenneth Goldman

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