From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Mon, 18 May 2009 20:03:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from arrakis.dune.hu ([195.56.146.235]:38530 "EHLO arrakis.dune.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by ftp.linux-mips.org with ESMTP id S20024355AbZERTDJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 May 2009 20:03:09 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arrakis.dune.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E97223C0130; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:03:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: at arrakis.dune.hu Received: from arrakis.dune.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arrakis.dune.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mBMxGaOjpLaI; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:03:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from richese (catv-89-134-214-203.catv.broadband.hu [89.134.214.203]) by arrakis.dune.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14E9723C0105; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:03:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:02:54 +0200 To: "Jon Fraser" Subject: Re: Bigsur? From: "Imre Kaloz" Organization: OpenWrt - Wireless Freedom Cc: "linux-mips@linux-mips.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1242663215.18301.26.camel@chaos.ne.broadcom.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1242663215.18301.26.camel@chaos.ne.broadcom.com> Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 22799 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: kaloz@openwrt.org Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-mips On 2009.05.18. 18:13:35 Jon Fraser wrote: > I think people that have them, have had them for a while. > > You can still get, I believe, the bcm91125 and bcm91250. > http://www.broadcom.com/products/Data-Telecom-Networks/Communications-Processors/BCM91125E > How you actually order one, I don't know. I assume you have to go to a > distributor. > > When I got a 1480 a year ago, it had to be built and took about 3 > months. The internal transfer cost was very high. So I really don't > think they are available anymore. BUT, I don't work for that group. > > Are people just looking for eval type boards with MIPS cpus? > > Jon Fraser > (Not offical statments for Broadcom) Some people like me are Linux distro developers -- quite frequently the only way to get our hands on boards to be able to support a platform is eBay. This creates a funny "disturbance in the force". At one end we are the ones willing to spend not only our free time but personal incomes on supporting some platforms, yet we are the ones who have the hardest times making this happen. Sticking to your company for example, I was willing to spend the money on a Swarm a few years ago. Broadcom ignored my mails, simply as I was an individual who wouldn't order thousands of CPUs, "just" that board. So it took me quite some time and luck to hunt down a BCM91125F with all it's limits.. On the other end there are companies who did order Xk CPUs and people who have access to the eval boards. Most of these people don't give a damn about anything we do or care for, and are happy to finish work and ignore the boards outside work hours -- not that I blame them for doing so. This is all again the old tale of money and possibilities vs time and willingness. Imre