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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Mark Hayden <mark@northforknet.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux networking and disk IO issues
Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:36:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oupelsoll9l.fsf@pigdrop.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B1BB85B.360CE0F6@northforknet.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
In-Reply-To: Mark Hayden's message of "4 Jun 2001 20:17:03 +0200"


[this time with l-k cc]

Mark Hayden <mark@northforknet.com> writes:

> * The Linux networking stack requires all skbuff buffers to be
>   contiguous.  As far as I can tell, this makes it impossible to
>   write high-bandwidth UDP applications on Linux.  For instance, the
>   kernel will drop a fragmented 8KB message if it cannot allocate 8KB
>   of contiguous memory to reassemble it into.  I have found that it
>   is relatively easy to enter regimes where this can cause massive
>   packet loss.

2.4.4+ supports fragmented packets and packet lists.

You're probably seeing the 8K allocation problem for incoming packets which need to be
allocated by the driver on interrupt time with GFP_ATOMIC. GFP_ATOMIC memory is limited.
The 2.4 VM unfortunately has no way to keep more GFP_ATOMIC free ATM and tune for heavy
interrupt load (2.2 allowed this by increasing the freepages sysctl). Hopefully this VM bug 
will be fixed in the not too far future.

A workaround in the driver would be to use the 2.4.4 fragmented buffers 
(of course you'll still run into GFP_ATOMIC limits without manual tuning)
or allocate RX memory from a thread with GFP_KERNEL.



-Andi

       reply	other threads:[~2001-06-13 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3B1BB85B.360CE0F6@northforknet.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-06-13 10:36 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2001-06-04 16:33 Linux networking and disk IO issues Mark Hayden
2001-06-04 20:02 ` Alan Cox

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