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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Juan Piernas Canovas <piernas@ditec.um.es>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	sfaibish <sfaibish@emc.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] DualFS: File System with Meta-data and Data Separation
Date: 15 Feb 2007 21:38:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73sld7f96t.fsf@bingen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0702151910370.19998@ditec.inf.um.es>

Juan Piernas Canovas <piernas@ditec.um.es> writes:

[playing devil's advocate here]
 
> If the data and meta-data devices of DualFS can be on different disks,
> DualFS is able to READ and WRITE data and meta-data blocks in
> PARALLEL.

XFS can do this too using its real time volumes (which don't contain
any metadata).  It can also have a separate log.

Also many storage subsystems have some internal parallelism
in writing (e.g. a RAID can write on different disks in parallel for
a single partition) so i'm not sure your distinction is that useful.

If you stripe two disks with a standard fs versus use one of them
as metadata volume and the other as data volume with dualfs i would
expect the striped variant usually be faster because it will give
parallelism not only to data versus metadata, but also to all data
versus other data.

Also I would expect your design to be slow for metadata read intensive
workloads. E.g. have you tried to boot a root partition with dual fs?
That's a very important IO benchmark for desktop Linux systems.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-15 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-11  3:06 [ANNOUNCE] DualFS: File System with Meta-data and Data Separation Sorin Faibish
2007-02-14 21:10 ` sfaibish
2007-02-14 21:57   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-15 18:38     ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-15 20:09       ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-15 22:59         ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-16  9:13           ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-16 11:05             ` Benny Amorsen
2007-02-16 23:47             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-17 15:11               ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-17 18:10                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-17 18:36                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-17 20:47                     ` Sorin Faibish
2007-02-18  5:59                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-18 12:46                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-19 23:57                         ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-20  0:10                           ` Bron Gondwana
2007-02-20  0:30                           ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-21  4:36                             ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-21 12:37                               ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-21 18:31                                 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-21 19:25                                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-22  4:30                                     ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-22 16:25                                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-22 19:57                                         ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-23 13:26                                           ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-24 22:35                                             ` Sorin Faibish
2007-02-25  2:41                                             ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-25 12:01                                               ` Jörn Engel
2007-02-26  3:48                                                 ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-20 20:43                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-15 20:38       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-02-15 19:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-16  1:43           ` sfaibish
2007-02-15 21:09         ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-15 23:57           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16  4:57             ` Juan Piernas Canovas
2007-02-26 11:49   ` Yakov Lerner
2007-02-26 13:08     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-02-26 13:24     ` Sorin Faibish
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-17  3:44 Adam J. Richter
2007-02-17  3:59 Adam J. Richter

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