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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: stability matrix (was: Is stability a joke?)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$9faa9$336f6d31$1fa59209$17e07862@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1474314346.10189.19.camel@scientia.net

Christoph Anton Mitterer posted on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:45:46 +0200 as
excerpted:

> On Mon, 2016-09-19 at 17:27 +0200, David Sterba wrote:
> 
>> > For specific features:
>> > - Autodefrag
>> >   - didn't that also cause reflinks to be broken up?
>> 
>> No and never had.
> 
> Absolutely sure? One year ago, I was told that at first too so I started
> using it, but later on some (IIRC) developer said auto-defrag would also
> suffer from it.

AFAIK it was Hugo that said he looked into that, and that (if I'm 
representing it correctly) autodefrag breaks reflinks and triggers space-
using duplication much as defrag does, but that it does it on a much 
smaller scale, since it (1) only triggers when some parts of a file are 
being rewritten anyway, thus breaking the reflink for those specific 
parts of the file due to COW (COW1 on otherwise NOCOW files) in any case, 
and (2) unlike defrag, doesn't rewrite and thus break the reflinks on 
entire files, just somewhat larger extents than the pure rewrite by 
itself without autodefrag would.

Thus making the reflink-breaking and duplication effect of autodefrag 
there, but relatively quite small compared to on-demand per-file defrag.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman


  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-20  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-11  8:55 Is stability a joke? Waxhead
2016-09-11  9:56 ` Steven Haigh
2016-09-11 10:23 ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 11:21   ` Zoiled
2016-09-11 11:43     ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 12:05       ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 12:39         ` Waxhead
2016-09-11 13:02           ` Hugo Mills
2016-09-11 14:59             ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 20:14             ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-12 12:20             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-12 12:59               ` Michel Bouissou
2016-09-12 13:14                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-12 14:04                 ` Lionel Bouton
2016-09-15  1:05               ` Nicholas D Steeves
2016-09-15  8:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-16  7:13                 ` Helmut Eller
2016-09-15  5:55               ` Kai Krakow
2016-09-15  8:05                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 14:54           ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 15:19             ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-11 20:21             ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-11 17:46           ` Marc MERLIN
2016-09-20 16:33             ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-11 17:11         ` Duncan
2016-09-12 12:26           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-11 12:30       ` Waxhead
2016-09-11 14:36         ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-12 12:48   ` Swâmi Petaramesh
2016-09-12 13:53 ` Chris Mason
2016-09-12 17:36   ` Zoiled
2016-09-12 17:44     ` Waxhead
2016-09-15  1:12     ` Nicholas D Steeves
2016-09-12 14:27 ` David Sterba
2016-09-12 14:54   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-12 16:51     ` David Sterba
2016-09-12 17:31       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-15  1:07         ` Nicholas D Steeves
2016-09-15  1:13           ` Steven Haigh
2016-09-15  2:14             ` stability matrix (was: Is stability a joke?) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-09-15  9:49               ` stability matrix Hans van Kranenburg
2016-09-15 11:54                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-15 14:15                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-15 14:56                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-19 14:38                   ` David Sterba
2016-09-19 15:27               ` stability matrix (was: Is stability a joke?) David Sterba
2016-09-19 17:18                 ` stability matrix Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19 19:52                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-09-19 20:07                     ` Chris Mason
2016-09-19 20:36                       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-09-19 21:03                         ` Chris Mason
2016-09-19 19:45                 ` stability matrix (was: Is stability a joke?) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-09-20  7:59                   ` Duncan [this message]
2016-09-20  8:19                     ` Hugo Mills
2016-09-20  8:34                   ` David Sterba
2016-09-19 15:38         ` Is stability a joke? David Sterba
2016-09-19 21:25           ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-09-12 16:27   ` Is stability a joke? (wiki updated) David Sterba
2016-09-12 16:56     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-12 17:29       ` Filipe Manana
2016-09-12 17:42         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-12 20:08       ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-13 11:35         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-15 18:01           ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-15 18:20             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-15 19:02               ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-15 20:16                 ` Hugo Mills
2016-09-15 20:26                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-16 12:00                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19  2:57                       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-09-19 12:37                         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19  4:08                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-09-19 15:27                   ` Sean Greenslade
2016-09-19 17:38                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19 18:27                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-19 18:34                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19 20:15                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-09-20 12:09                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-15 21:23               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-09-16 12:13                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19  3:47       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-09-19 12:32         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-19 15:33           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-09-12 19:57     ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-12 20:21       ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2016-09-12 20:35         ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-12 20:44           ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-13 11:28             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-13 11:39               ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-14  5:53             ` Marc Haber
2016-09-12 20:48         ` Waxhead
2016-09-13  8:38           ` Timofey Titovets
2016-09-13 11:26             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn

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