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From: "Luuk van der Duim" <LuukvanderDuim@pahw.nl>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:43:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s4c77fc0.041@mail.pahw.nl> (raw)

I think the whole thing resembles the ALSA merge case(?)
Also a big blob which was offered at once developped seperately in alsa-devel.

It took Jaroslav and others a few years to convince Linus, him disliking music, he had no appetite for ALSA. 
Did Alan end up feeding it to Linus by putting cream on top?
Truth is he was busy being annoyed over scsi layer and other things. He ended up having no trouble at all
with the 79,000 line patch.. It was merged in 2.5.4 

I tried reiserV4 in the earlier days of V4  (2000?), I only used it on a non-critical partition but it worked fine for me although tools were still in development then
and _to me_ performance benefits were irreproduceable.

Even rmap had to go out of 2.4.10 because Linus thought the carpet would never fit the floor, no matter how many patches were to come.
I can imagine he's not to keen experimenting on things better than sliced bread (without cream).

Development trees also weren't an option because people kept being annoyed over too many things being broke at the same time.


  Luuk

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             reply	other threads:[~2006-07-26 12:44 UTC|newest]

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2006-07-26 12:43 Luuk van der Duim [this message]
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2006-08-07 17:37 the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion greg
2006-08-07 17:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07 18:34 ` David Masover
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2006-07-23 18:26         ` André Goddard Rosa
2006-07-22 15:21 Luuk van der Duim
2006-07-21 19:46 Hans Reiser
2006-07-22  0:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-22 19:19   ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-22 13:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-22 14:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-07-22 18:33   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-22 20:29     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23  7:20       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23  9:12         ` Matt Heler
2006-07-24  4:01           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24  8:54             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:13               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 11:34                   ` Christian Iversen
2006-07-24 12:37                     ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-24 12:37                       ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-24 16:57                   ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 17:35                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 18:28                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 18:06                     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24 20:37                       ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 21:22                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-24 21:51                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24 22:51                           ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-25 15:08                           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-07-25 20:49                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-25 23:04                               ` David Masover
2006-07-26 11:20                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 11:26                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 13:02                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-26 18:54                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2006-07-27  1:29                                   ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:29                           ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:36                             ` David Lang
2006-07-26  0:47                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 10:58                       ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 14:47                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 15:59                           ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 15:59                             ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 16:22                             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 17:34                                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-31 18:36                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` Rudy Zijlstra
2006-07-31 17:20                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:32                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:46                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 18:11                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 18:43                                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 19:17                                       ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 19:29                                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 20:00                                           ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:14                                           ` Bernd Schubert
2006-08-01 14:28                                             ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-01 14:52                                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 14:52                                                 ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 15:29                                                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 16:44                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-01 17:04                                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-08-01 12:01                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:41                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 18:14                                                         ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 17:19                                                     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 11:36                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:40                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 19:27                                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-03 13:58                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 18:48                                                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-08-01 18:11                                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 18:21                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-08-01 11:41                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-03 14:03                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 15:44                                                         ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-03 17:26                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-04 17:04                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-04 18:57                                                               ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-05  1:02                                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-05  0:56                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-06 22:19                                                                 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-09  8:40                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 11:53                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-09 15:48                                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-07  7:57                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-08 11:06                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-01 19:11                                                     ` David Masover
2006-08-03 14:03                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 16:50                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01 16:57                                               ` David Masover
2006-08-06 22:59                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 23:36                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-09  8:37                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09  9:48                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09  9:15                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 15:52                                                     ` David Masover
2006-07-31 19:42                                         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 19:34                                           ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 21:00                                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-07-31 21:40                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 21:43                                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:54                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:02                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:21                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:56                                               ` Nate Diller
2006-07-31 23:52                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 23:43                                                   ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  0:15                                                     ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-08-01  6:28                                                       ` Toby Thain
2006-07-31 22:17                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 21:21                                   ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-31 21:21                                     ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-31 16:47                               ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 17:16                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:34                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:44                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 16:54                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:56                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 20:07                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 20:32                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 20:32                                     ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 19:41                               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-31 22:53                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  2:33                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 10:40                             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-01 10:59                               ` venom
2006-07-31 16:52                           ` David Masover
2006-08-01  6:22                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-24 20:28                   ` Lex Lyamin
2006-07-26 13:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:39                   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-27 17:28                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-28  2:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 17:56                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-27 19:06                     ` David Masover
2006-07-28  2:26                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23 11:48         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-23 17:43           ` Toby Thain
2006-07-23 17:43             ` Toby Thain
2006-07-23 20:46         ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 21:15           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23 23:22             ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 22:35               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:13         ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-25 23:51           ` David Masover
2006-07-26 14:26             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 18:16               ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-27  1:19                 ` David Masover
2006-07-27 20:11                   ` Maciej Sołtysiak
2006-07-27 20:23                     ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:44         ` David Masover
2006-07-26  7:59           ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 14:33           ` the " 'official' point of view" " Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 10:38         ` David Weinehall
2006-07-24  8:41       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:09         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:32           ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 13:49         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-23  7:20   ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-24  7:49     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-25 12:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-07-25 12:51         ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-25 17:47         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:20           ` Francesco Biscani
2006-07-25 21:17           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-25 22:48             ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-25 23:48               ` andrea
2006-07-25 23:45             ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 12:45           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 13:29             ` andrea
2006-07-26 13:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 14:28                 ` andrea
2006-07-26 14:50                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 16:06                     ` andrea
2006-07-26 16:53                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 17:02                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 17:20                         ` andrea
2006-07-26 19:01                           ` Jerome Pinot
2006-07-26 20:50                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 20:50                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 21:17                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 21:37                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 22:17                                 ` andrea
2006-07-27  6:56                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27  8:33                                 ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 10:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:07                                     ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:35                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:43                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:56                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:30                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 13:42                                         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-27 13:50                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 14:31                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 18:37                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-27 19:34                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 18:43                                           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 20:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 12:21                                     ` CaT
2006-07-28  2:25                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 10:01                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-28 14:05                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 11:52                                 ` the " 'official' point of view" " andrea
2006-07-27 12:18                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:10                                     ` andrea
2006-07-27 13:58                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 14:45                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 15:05                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 16:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-28  2:25                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 14:31                                                 ` andrea
2006-07-28  1:47                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27  4:35                             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 13:26                               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24  2:08   ` Steve Lord
2006-07-24  7:53     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-24 10:30       ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 11:35         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 13:39           ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 15:38             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 16:17               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 17:50                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 18:29                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-26 13:08               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:52                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-27 16:43                 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-25 21:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 22:17 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-25  8:05   ` Hans Reiser

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