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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Ozan Çağlayan" <ozan@pardus.org.tr>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Problems with maintaining a separate alsa-driver in a	distribution
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:59:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h3ab28yna.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A113EBD.8050705@pardus.org.tr>

At Mon, 18 May 2009 13:55:57 +0300,
Ozan Çağlayan wrote:
> 
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >
> > It's fairly difficult because the internal API was changed.
> > Especially the core struct was modified recently, thus there is no
> > ABI compatibility at all between the older kernel and the latest alsa
> > driver.
> >
> >   
> >> Is it technically possible to patch those tiny drivers onto
> >> alsa-driver and compile them if the .config file from the kernel source
> >> has enabled those DVB devices?
> >>
> >> Or maybe I should enable ALSA in-kernel, compile those DVB sound stuff
> >> and remove the sound/ directory from the kernel package? (Even the idea
> >> sounds really *dirty*, dunno if it's technically possible too)
> >>     
> >
> > You'd need to copy the original ALSA in-kernel stuff, copy the headers
> > from alsa-driver, then rebuild the related modules in kernel to follow
> > the new API.  Also, some wrappers would be needed, e.g. for the
> > obsoleted snd_card_new().
> >   
> 
> But that shouldn't pose any problem if I stick with 2.6.30_rc* + latest
> alsa-driver right?

Right.  It's about 2.6.29 or earlier kernels.

> But yes, during the lifetime of a stable distribution
> release, the separate alsa-driver will always move faster than the
> kernel and the ABI changes will be inevitable.
> 
> So It will become difficult enough when the stock kernel of the distro
> and alsa-driver diverges from each other, am I right?

Yes, at this time, the core struct was change, unfortunately.
If it's just about a function, this could be easier to add a hack, but
the struct is much more difficult to work around the ABI compatibility.


Takashi
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      reply	other threads:[~2009-05-18 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-18 10:33 Problems with maintaining a separate alsa-driver in a distribution Ozan Çağlayan
2009-05-18 10:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18 10:55   ` Ozan Çağlayan
2009-05-18 10:59     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]

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