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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	media-submaintainers@linuxtv.org,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Pull network and Patch Acceptance Consistency
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:26:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hd0jcfftm.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190617103115.670bf968@coco.lan>

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 15:31:15 +0200,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> 
> Em Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:01:06 +0200
> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> escreveu:
> 
> > Hi Mauro,
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:48 PM Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> > <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > Em Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:16:34 -0700
> > > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> escreveu:  
> > > > On Fri, 2019-06-14 at 13:04 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:  
> > > > > Em Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:49:46 -0700
> > > > > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> escreveu:  
> > > > > > Actually, this leads me to the patch acceptance criteria: Is there
> > > > > > value in requiring reviews?  We try to do this in SCSI (usually
> > > > > > only one review), but if all reviewers add a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reviewed-by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tag, which is accumulated in the tree, your pull machinery can
> > > > > > detect it on all commits in the pull and give you an automated
> > > > > > decision about whether to accept the pull or not.  If you require
> > > > > > two with one from a list of designated reviewers, it can do that as
> > > > > > well (with a bit more complexity in the pull hook script).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So here's the question: If I help you script this, would you be
> > > > > > willing to accept pull requests in the media tree with this check
> > > > > > in place?  I'm happy to do this because it's an interesting
> > > > > > experiment to see if we can have automation offload work currently
> > > > > > done by humans.  
> > > > >
> > > > > We could experiment something like that, provided that people will be
> > > > > aware that it can be undone if something gets wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yet, as we discussed at the Media Summit, we currently have an
> > > > > issue: our infrastructure lack resources for such kind of
> > > > > automation.  
> > > >
> > > > This one doesn't require an automation infrastructure: the script runs
> > > > as a local pull hook on the machine you accept the pull request from
> > > > (presumably your laptop?)  
> > >
> > > No, I run it on a 40-core HP server that it is below my desk. I turn it on
> > > only when doing patch review (to save power, and because it produces a lot
> > > of heat at the small room I work).
> > >
> > > Right now, I use a script with converts a pull request into a quilt tree.
> > > Then, for each patch there, after a manual review, I run:  
> > 
> > I think this process can be improved/optimized:
> > 
> > >         - checkpatch --strict  
> > 
> > Should have been done by your (trusted) submaintainer that sent you
> > the pull request.
> 
> Things are getting better with time, but I still catch issues - with
> seems to indicate that people sometimes forget to run it.
> 
> On a recent case, I received a few pull requests lacking the SOB from
> the patch author.

But you can simply refuse pulling in such a fatal-error case, instead
of fixing in your side.  And in a trivial error case, you can apply
the fix after pulling, too.

A push-back stops the flow, but at the same time, it'd help subsystem
maintainers learning something, so it's not always bad.


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-17 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06 15:48 [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Pull network and Patch Acceptance Consistency James Bottomley
2019-06-06 15:58 ` Greg KH
2019-06-06 16:24   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 13:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 10:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 13:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 13:31           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 13:54             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 14:08               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 14:56             ` Mark Brown
2019-06-14 13:58           ` Greg KH
2019-06-14 15:11             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 15:23               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 15:43                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 15:49                   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 16:04                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 16:16                       ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 17:48                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17  7:01                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-17 13:31                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 14:26                               ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2019-06-19  7:53                               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-19  8:13                                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [kbuild] " Philip Li
2019-06-19  8:33                                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19 14:39                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-19 14:48                                     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [media-submaintainers] " Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-19 15:19                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-19 15:46                                       ` James Bottomley
2019-06-19 16:23                                         ` Mark Brown
2019-06-20 12:24                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-20 10:36                                         ` Jani Nikula
2019-06-19 15:56                                       ` Mark Brown
2019-06-19 16:09                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-15 10:55                         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:52               ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-06-15 11:01               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-17 11:03                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 12:28                   ` Mark Brown
2019-06-17 16:48                     ` Tim.Bird
2019-06-17 17:23                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-17 23:13                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 14:18                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-06 16:29   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-06 18:26     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-07 20:14       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 13:49         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 14:35           ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:03             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 15:21               ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-13 15:27                 ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:35                 ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-13 15:39                   ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-14 11:53                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-06-14 17:06                       ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-15  7:20                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-06-13 15:39                   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:42                   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-06-13 19:28               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14  9:08               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-14  9:43               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-14 13:27               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-13 17:27             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 18:41               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 19:11                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 19:20                   ` Joe Perches
2019-06-14  2:21                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 19:57                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 14:53           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 17:09             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14  3:03               ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-14  3:35                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14  7:31                 ` Joe Perches
2019-06-13 13:28       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-06 16:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-14 19:53 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-06-14 23:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-06-17 10:35     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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