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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, clemens@ladisch.de,
	ffado-devel@lists.sf.net,
	Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: add helper functions for asynchronous MIDI port
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:47:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hd1ynybkd.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150815121554.1f1cffc6@kant>

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:15:54 +0200,
Stefan Richter wrote:
> 
> On Aug 13 Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > On Aug 13 2015 15:31, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 02:19:59 +0200,
> > > Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > >> --- a/sound/firewire/lib.c
> > >> +++ b/sound/firewire/lib.c
> [...]
> > >> +static void midi_port_tasklet(unsigned long data)
> > >> +{
> > >> +	struct snd_fw_async_midi_port *port =
> > >> +					(struct snd_fw_async_midi_port *)data;
> > >> +	struct snd_rawmidi_substream *substream = ACCESS_ONCE(port->substream);
> > >> +	int generation;
> > >> +	int type;
> [...]
> > >> +	/* Start this transaction. */
> > >> +	generation = port->parent->generation;
> > >> +	smp_rmb(); /* node_id vs. generation */
> > >
> > > Why this barrier is needed?
> > 
> > Oops. I forgot to refine it after copying from the other place. Exactly, 
> > it's not need here.
> > 
> > >> +	fw_send_request(port->parent->card, &port->transaction, type,
> > >> +			port->parent->node_id, generation,
> > >> +			port->parent->max_speed, port->addr,
> > >> +			port->buf, port->len, async_midi_port_callback,
> > >> +			port);
> > >> +}
> 
> The barrier is normally needed because:
>   - "generation" is the IEEE 1394 bus generation, which is a counter that
>     distinguishes periods between bus resets.
>   - At a bus reset, nodes may assume different node IDs from before the
>     reset.  Hence whenever a node is addressed by means of node ID, the
>     generation value must be given too.
>   - The node_ID:generation tuple is accessed in the Linux firewire stack in
>     a lockless manner¹:
>        - firewire-core's bus reset handler writes them by
>          set node_id; smp_wmb(); set generation
>        - higher-level code reads them by
>          get generation; smp_rmb(); get node_id
>     This way highlevel always only uses current IDs in current generations
>     or current IDs in outdated generations (the latter case being
>     extremely rare and doing no harm because the link layer hardware will
>     not emit this sort of requests to the bus), while on the other hand
>     highlevel never uses outdated IDs in current generations (which would
>     cause requests to be misdirected to a wrong node).

Thanks, that clarifies.  But wouldn't it be more helpful to have some
macro than open-coding at each place?


Takashi
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-16  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-13  0:19 [PATCH 00/25] ALSA: support AMDTP variants Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:19 ` [PATCH 01/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: rename 'amdtp' to 'amdtp-stream' for functional separation Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:19 ` [PATCH 02/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: functional separation for packet transmission layer and data processing layer Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:19 ` [PATCH 03/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: add helper functions for asynchronous MIDI port Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  6:31   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-13  7:57     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-15 10:15       ` Stefan Richter
2015-08-15 10:19         ` Stefan Richter
2015-08-16  6:47         ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2015-08-16 12:15           ` Stefan Richter
2015-08-17 14:01             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 04/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: add a restriction for a transaction at once Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 05/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: schedule tasklet again when MIDI substream has rest of MIDI messages Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 06/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: add throttle for MIDI data rate Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13 21:34   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 07/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: avoid endless loop to transfer MIDI messages at fatal error Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 08/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add skeleton for Digi 002/003 family Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  6:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 09/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add data processing layer Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 10/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add stream functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 11/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add proc node to show clock status Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 12/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add PCM functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 13/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add MIDI functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 14/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 15/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add support for asynchronous messaging Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 16/25] ALSA: firewire-digi00x: add support for MIDI ports for machine control Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 17/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add skeleton for TASCAM FireWire series Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  6:24   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-13  7:18     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 18/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add a structure for model-dependent parameters Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 19/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add proc node to show firmware information Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 20/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add data processing layer Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 21/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add streaming functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 22/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add PCM functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 23/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add transaction functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 24/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add MIDI functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:20 ` [PATCH 25/25] ALSA: firewire-tascam: add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-13  0:32 ` [PATCH 00/25] ALSA: support AMDTP variants Takashi Sakamoto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-22  9:19 [PATCH 00/25 v2] " Takashi Sakamoto
2015-08-22  9:19 ` [PATCH 03/25] ALSA: firewire-lib: add helper functions for asynchronous MIDI port Takashi Sakamoto

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