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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Cc: Abramo Bagnara <abramo@alsa-project.org>, Paul Davis <pbd@op.net>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: how to define a 2-index control element?
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 12:34:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hg0145jqv.wl@alsa2.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0205071151170.508-100000@pnote.perex-int.cz>

At Tue, 7 May 2002 11:55:51 +0200 (CEST),
Jaroslav wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 7 May 2002, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> > > Card specific code may solve all that easily.
> >  
> > that's true.
> > but user may start alsamixer (or what else) and get huge amount of
> > bars (i thought), which should be avoided.
> 
> We can avoid this in alsa-lib.
 
yes.  i meant, anyway we need to implement a kind of workaround in the
general code of alsa-lib, not only as a card-specific plugin.


> > > We need to separate in our minds the _basic_ hardware access and
> > > layout/display consideration. Kernel is for the former, libraries and
> > > applications for the latter.
> > 
> > i reconsidered this issue yesterday.
> > in this case, we need to take also the number of controls in the
> > kernel space into accout.  if we have an instance for each of 1400+
> > controls, there are really 1400+ mallocs, and we'll look for a control
> > by a linear search from them.
> > and most likely the hardware doesn't need them.
> > it will be a big drawback.
> 
> If someone has hardware with 1400+ controls, than memory allocation issue 
> is out of question. I wrote that we can optimize current code - add some 
> hash tables for faster lookups for example.

well, about 200kB is not so big nowadays :)

i thought the hardware doesn't need allocate 1400 controls - the
controls are identical but have different indices.
in such a case, the indexed-access would be most straightforward.
no hash, no list.


> > otoh, the indexed access as Paul's suggestion needs only one control.
> > the drawback of this method is, as Jaroslav pointed, the lack of
> > notification.  the notification can be done but we cannot know which
> > element is affected.
> 
> I think that it's much bigger drawback than allocation of some more 
> kilobytes of memory.

hmm...


Takashi

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-07 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-04 12:45 how to define a 2-index control element? Paul Davis
2002-05-04 13:18 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-05 13:48   ` Paul Davis
2002-05-05 15:50     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-05-06  1:32       ` Paul Davis
2002-05-06  6:46         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-05-06 11:22           ` Paul Davis
2002-05-06 11:44             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-05-06 12:03         ` Takashi Iwai
2002-05-06 12:19           ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-06 12:53             ` Takashi Iwai
2002-05-06 19:11               ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-07  9:29                 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-05-07  9:55                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-05-07 10:34                     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2002-05-07 17:17                       ` Paul Davis
2002-05-07 22:06                         ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-08  0:00                           ` Paul Davis
     [not found] <20020508000005.EB5AC59D35D@kerberos.suse.cz>
2002-05-08  7:52 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-05-08  9:52   ` Takashi Iwai

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