From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Takashi Iwai Subject: Re: How to package the smixer modules? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:38:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1478522629.1939.3.camel@iki.fi> <1478702366.1952.1.camel@iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECB6265DF3 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:38:39 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <1478702366.1952.1.camel@iki.fi> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: Tanu Kaskinen Cc: alsa-devel List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:39:26 +0100, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-11-08 at 15:39 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > The simple mixer is another layer in ALSA mixer API, and actually it's > > mandatory. So, at least, sbase plugin should be provided always when > > alsa-lib mixer API is used. Other plugins are basically never used > > practically. > > > > It doesn't matter whether to package them separately or not. The only > > point is that sbase plugin should be available when alsa-lib mixer API > > is used. > > Thanks for the explanation! If the sbase plugin is essentially a > mandatory accompaniment of libasound, I'll move it to the libasound > package, and since I don't see much benefit in keeping the hda and ac97 > plugins in a separate package either, I'll move those too and get rid > of the whole smixer plugin package. > > Out of curiosity, in what situation are the hda and ac97 plugins used? > You said that they are practically never used, but surely they have > some purpose? Actually, I was wrong. Even sbase.so isn't needed for the normal alsamixer / amixer operations. This is a base shared object that is needed for "basic" abstraction mode, but the normal mode (abstraction "none") doesn't need it. That said, the whole /usr/lib*/alsa-lib/smixer/* stuff can be removed from your package as long as the normal mode is used. There is an option -a to pass the abstraction level. When you pass "basic", the python module gets loaded. It was supposed to handle the card-specific abstraction parsed via python, but this seems currently broken. So it's maybe safer to disable as default... Takashi