From: Douglas Godfrey <dvdoug@tiac.net>
To: linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: Apple Job Posting and Good News for LinuxPPC developers
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:19:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <v04003a01b32af0ff96d1@[205.161.35.44]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9904021711.AA35268@marc.watson.ibm.com>
Reoly to David Edelsohn, 4/2/99 12:11 PM -0500: Re: Apple Job Posting and
Good News for LinuxPPC devel
>>>>>> Holger Bettag writes:
>
>Holger> I have heard rumours that the "Max" core has provisions to
>physically address
>Holger> more than 4GB of memory (via the MMU's segment registers).
>Processes would
>Holger> still be limited to a 4GB logical address space, though.
>
> The PowerPC architecture always has been able to address more than
>32-bits of "logical" address space. That is the reason for the PowerPC
>terminology of "effective address", "virtual address", and "real address".
>The intermediate "virtual address" space of a 32-bit PowerPC
>implementation is 52 bits.
>
> Pointers still are 32-bits, but a cooperating operating system and
>compiler can allow an application to address more virtual memory through
>runtime modifications to the virtual segments mapped by the segment
>registers, like memory overlays. That was the original reason for the
>design of the MMU in the POWER (predecessor of PowerPC) architecture. I
>do not believe that any compiler / OS combination takes advantage of this
>facility.
>
Only the IBM Mainframe and the AS/400 use windowed virtual storage to
access more than 32 bits of address with 32 bit pointers. The IBM Mainframe
can access a 44bit address range by using a 32 bit pointer as a base address
for a 4k page boundry contiguous storage segment with a window size of
up to 16meg. The old AS/400 did something similar to access it's virtual
storage mapped database while the new AS/400 just switches to the PPC 64bit
addressing mode and uses full 64bit pointers.
Thanx...
Doug
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-03-14 13:35 Blue G3 and machine check Benjamin Herrenschmidt
1999-03-15 16:42 ` Ryuichi Oikawa
1999-03-15 17:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
1999-03-24 9:30 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-03-24 23:12 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-03-25 11:20 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-03-25 16:46 ` Apple Job Posting and Good News for LinuxPPC developers Kevin B. Hendricks
1999-03-25 19:12 ` David Edelsohn
1999-03-26 11:31 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-03-26 16:13 ` David Edelsohn
1999-03-27 6:27 ` Guy Sotomayor
1999-03-27 20:44 ` David Edelsohn
1999-04-02 12:11 ` Holger Bettag
1999-04-02 17:11 ` David Edelsohn
1999-04-02 22:19 ` Douglas Godfrey [this message]
1999-04-03 17:42 ` Holger Bettag
1999-04-05 16:11 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-04-05 16:06 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-04-06 5:53 ` Douglas Godfrey
1999-03-26 6:08 ` Nathan Hurst
1999-03-26 13:51 ` sean o'malley
1999-03-28 5:08 ` Cort Dougan
1999-03-26 20:33 ` N.G. Temme
1999-03-29 23:44 ` Blue G3 and machine check Paul Mackerras
1999-03-30 11:41 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-03-31 16:20 ` Ryuichi Oikawa
1999-03-31 18:39 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-04-05 16:36 ` Ryuichi Oikawa
1999-04-05 17:11 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-04-04 1:17 ` Joel Klecker
1999-04-09 5:58 ` Joel Klecker
1999-04-09 16:12 ` Ryuichi Oikawa
1999-03-25 12:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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