From: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:29:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vpqhcrcebmp.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704191033290.8822@racer.site> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Thu\, 19 Apr 2007 10\:37\:49 +0200 \(CEST\)")
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> How is that not concurrent? If it really was not, there would be no need
> to merge.
It can be concurrent, but on different files. Concurrency and merge at
the filetree level, but never within a file. I've worked in a team
where the "corporate" use of a VCS was following this model. Not
locking a file before editing it was considered a mistake.
>> So for such people, I really think raw Git is much more complicated than
>> CVS/SVN.
>
> I imagine that somebody dedicated enough -- i.e. not me -- could set up
> some standard aliases which do the CVS/SVN equivalent; we'd probably need
> to support something like
>
> [alias]
> ci = commit -a && push origin
>
> which should not be all that hard.
It depends on how you implement that.
There have been a discussion crossposted here and on the bzr ML. The
author of cogito added a similar feature to cogito.
But to emulate the centralized model, you need more than that, you
have to
1) make sure you're up to date with upstream
2) commit
3) push
and to do it correctly, 1) must be checked during all the procedure,
and doing it in a transactional way is not trivial.
bzr has a notion of "bound branches". That is, when you commit to a
bound branch, you also commit to the master branch. And the UI for
that is to use "bzr checkout master-branch". I agree the centralized
model is inferior in general, but there are several cases where this
is handy. One of them being to teach a newbie: "see, learn checkout,
update, commit, add, mv, remove and you know how to use it". Another,
for me, is to avoid forgetting to push ;-).
--
Matthieu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-19 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-17 9:02 GIT vs Other: Need argument Pietro Mascagni
2007-04-17 9:13 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-17 10:26 ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 14:32 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-17 10:37 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-04-17 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 17:07 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-17 10:33 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-04-17 14:39 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-25 8:58 ` Dana How
2007-04-25 10:35 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-17 10:45 ` Tomash Brechko
2007-04-17 15:41 ` Guilhem Bonnefille
2007-04-17 17:18 ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 17:30 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-04-17 19:36 ` Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-18 10:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-18 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 16:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-18 16:49 ` Bill Lear
2007-04-18 17:43 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-18 17:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-19 13:16 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-19 18:44 ` Petr Baudis
2007-04-20 9:04 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-18 20:57 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-18 20:08 ` Guilhem Bonnefille
2007-04-18 20:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 21:45 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-18 21:21 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-19 8:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 13:29 ` Matthieu Moy [this message]
2007-04-19 9:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 12:21 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-19 12:22 ` Christian MICHON
2007-04-19 12:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 12:54 ` Christian MICHON
2007-04-19 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-19 17:49 ` Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-19 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-23 18:54 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-23 19:52 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-23 22:12 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-23 22:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-23 22:58 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-23 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-23 23:55 ` Brian Gernhardt
2007-04-24 1:31 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-24 5:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-24 14:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-24 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 4:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 13:12 ` Making git disappear when talking about my code (was: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument) Carl Worth
2007-04-25 14:09 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-25 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 16:28 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-25 18:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-25 19:03 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-25 19:17 ` Making git disappear when talking about my code Junio C Hamano
2007-04-25 19:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-25 20:26 ` Carl Worth
2007-04-25 20:23 ` Making git disappear when talking about my code (was: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument) Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-25 14:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 19:44 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-25 19:56 ` Making git disappear when talking about my code Junio C Hamano
2007-04-25 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 20:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-25 21:38 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-25 20:29 ` Making git disappear when talking about my code (was: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument) Carl Worth
2007-04-25 22:39 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-25 20:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-23 23:22 ` GIT vs Other: Need argument Junio C Hamano
2007-04-19 20:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-20 15:54 ` History cleanup/rewriting script for git Jan Harkes
2007-04-20 18:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-20 18:44 ` Petr Baudis
2007-04-20 20:36 ` Jan Harkes
2007-04-19 12:15 ` GIT vs Other: Need argument Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-19 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 12:42 ` Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-19 13:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 14:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-19 12:45 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-19 12:46 ` [ANNOUNCE] Cogito is for sale Petr Baudis
2007-04-19 13:32 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-04-19 20:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-19 20:42 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <1176984208.30690.18.camel@cauchy.softax.local>
2007-04-19 12:28 ` GIT vs Other: Need argument Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 12:37 ` Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-19 13:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <200704172239.20124.andyparkins@gmail.com>
2007-04-19 11:59 ` Marcin Kasperski
2007-04-19 12:48 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-19 12:57 ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-20 6:22 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-04-20 13:03 ` Eric Blake
2007-04-18 12:40 ` Guilhem Bonnefille
2007-04-18 13:26 ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-18 17:08 ` Steven Grimm
2007-04-19 0:33 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-04-19 1:24 ` Steven Grimm
2007-04-19 2:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-04-19 8:48 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 8:57 ` Julian Phillips
2007-04-19 19:03 ` Steven Grimm
2007-04-19 21:00 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-19 2:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-19 6:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-19 18:18 ` Steven Grimm
2007-04-19 23:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-20 5:32 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-04-20 9:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-04-20 10:18 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-04-20 10:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-20 13:57 ` Petr Baudis
2007-04-20 8:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-20 16:42 ` Steven Grimm
2007-04-18 20:54 ` Yann Dirson
2007-04-18 3:09 ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-18 20:49 ` Yann Dirson
2007-04-25 8:55 ` Dana How
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