Re: Filtering in PREROUTING

[Jorge Davila <davila@nicaraguaopensource.com>]

George:

I am not an iptables expert but I will try to explain my understanding about 
filtering packets in the mangle table.

We knows that all tables have the chains PREROUTING, INPUT, OUTPUT, 
POSTROUTING, FORWARD.

We knows too that not all packets traverse all chains because that depends 
on "the path" that packet follows, in other words, we must have in mind if 
the packet if a packet locally generated (you surfing Internet in the device 
that acts as firewall) or if the packet have as final destination the 
firewall (supose that the firewall ("the gateway") is acting as a www server 
too and is receiving visits from Internet. The other thing is that packet 
must be forwarded by the device.

Why filter in the mangle table? Internet is wild land. There are many 
circunstances: an web browser generating anormal traffic because some 
security hole in the web browser has been sucessfully exploited. A host 
taken or contamined by a virus. In that circunstances, the tcp/ip traffice 
generated can have "illegal" headers or the traffice can be an attack to 
some other device in our networks or to a device in remote network.

Inspecting the packets headers in the mangle table and dropping the anormal 
traffic must be another mechanic for the "sanity" of the protected networks.

I hope that my few paragraphs gives you some help to understand why filter 
in the mangle table. Of course, you must decide in what chain inside the 
mangle put your rules to protect your networks.

Best regards,

Jorge Dávila.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:38:24 +0000
  george <gk@t-t-l.co.uk> wrote:
> I've seen a few places telling me that you shouldn't filter in the
> mangle table.  However, it seems sensible to me to drop junk packets in
> PREROUTING rather than have to duplicate those rules in both INPUT and
>FORWARD.
> 
> Having done this, I'm seeing packets dropped as invalid when I would
> expect them to be OK (but most traffic is behaving as expected).  Before
> I start digging into this I want to check if filtering in the mangle
> table really is stupid.
> 
> Can anyone explain this to me, or point me somewhere that will tell me
> please.  I haven't found anything other than a simple statement
> anywhere.
> 
> Thanks,
> George.
> 
> 

Jorge Isaac Davila Lopez
Nicaragua Open Source
davila@nicaraguaopensource.com