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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Wei Wang <weibunny@meta.com>,
	 "daniel.zahka@gmail.com" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	 "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,  David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk>,
	 Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 5/9] psp: add unprivileged version of psp_device_get_locked
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2026 18:41:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.101ad57610d58@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR15MB5817DD5000DA78CC8187C743BD7CA@SA1PR15MB5817.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

> > >> From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2026 8:25 AM
> > >> To: Wei Wang; netdev@vger.kernel.org; kuba@kernel.org;
> > >> daniel.zahka@gmail.com; Willem de Bruijn; David Wei; Andrew Lunn;
> > >> David S. Miller; Eric Dumazet
> > >> Cc: Wei Wang
> > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 5/9] psp: add unprivileged version of
> > >> psp_device_get_locked
> > >>
> > >>> Can you give a concise reason for which operations to allow from
> > >>> another netns and which to deny. Also as forward looking heuristic for
> > >>> when new operations may be added.
> > >>>
> > >>> Btw minor typo in first sentence of next commit: associcate.
> > >> Thanks for the comment!
> > >> Yes. "unprivileged" means access from the main netns as well as any
> > >> netns with an associated device and is used for commands like
> > >> dev-dump, dev-get, rx-assoc, tx-assoc, which are user-controlled
> > >> functionalities of the psd.
> > >> While "privileged" means access only from the main netns and is used
> > >> for dev-add/delete/change-ntf, key-rotate. This is more like the
> > >> admin-types of operations of the psd.
> > >> I will update the commit msg in the next version to make it more clear.
> > >
> > > I think Willem's question is more: what criteria did you use to decide
> > > if each operation is privileged or not? I think one reasonable answer
> > > would be: operations that have side effects on the psp dev's state,
> > > e.g. key rotations or changing the enabled psp versions.
> 
> Agree. And the current set of privileged operations should only include: dev-set, key-rotation.
> All others should be unprivileged I think...
> (The get-stats command which I should make sure they are called with unpriv = true. I will change that in the next version.)
> 
> >
> > well, now that I sent that I realize that criteria is so broad to
> > include things like rx-assoc and tx-assoc, which obviously need to be
> > unprivileged :(
> 
> Yes. tx-assoc and rx-assoc are currently implemented as unprivileged. They call psp_assoc_device_get_locked() which currently calls psp_dev_check_access() with unpriv = true.

Consider a more descriptive monitor than unprivileged too. As is, it's
not clear what privilege or capability is implied.

Perhaps just assoc_allowed?

(also please check your email: plain-text only)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-04  0:00 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/9] psp: Add support for dev-assoc/disassoc Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/9] selftests/net: Export Netlink class via lib.py Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/9] selftests/net: Add env for container based tests Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 4/9] selftests/net: Add netkit container ping test Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 5/9] psp: add unprivileged version of psp_device_get_locked Wei Wang
2026-03-04 15:00   ` Daniel Zahka
2026-03-04 16:25   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-03-04 17:42     ` Wei Wang
2026-03-04 18:01       ` Daniel Zahka
2026-03-04 18:03         ` Daniel Zahka
2026-03-04 22:31           ` Wei Wang
2026-03-04 23:41             ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-03-06 21:34               ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 6/9] psp: Add new netlink cmd for dev-assoc and dev-disassoc Wei Wang
2026-03-04 15:20   ` Daniel Zahka
2026-03-04 16:17   ` Daniel Zahka
2026-03-04 17:28     ` Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 7/9] psp: add a new netdev event for dev unregister Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 8/9] selftests/net: Add bpf skb forwarding program Wei Wang
2026-03-04  0:00 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 9/9] selftest/net: psp: Add test for dev-assoc/disassoc Wei Wang
2026-03-06 21:53   ` Jakub Kicinski

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