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Fri, 15 Aug 2025 17:48:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Matthias =?utf-8?Q?A=C3=9Fhauer?= Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org, Elijah Newren , "brian m. carlson" , Taylor Blau , Christian Brabandt , Phillip Wood , Eli Schwartz , "Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier" , Johannes Schindelin , Patrick Steinhardt , Sam James , Collin Funk , Mike Hommey , Pierre-Emmanuel Patry , Ben Knoble , Ezekiel Newren Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/17] Do support Windows again after requiring Rust In-Reply-To: ("Matthias =?utf-8?Q?A=C3=9Fhauer=22's?= message of "Fri, 15 Aug 2025 19:12:56 +0200") References: <96041a10d545e0e431d05b93544771c6bdfc06f1.1755220973.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 14:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Matthias Aßhauer writes: >> ifeq (MINGW64,$(MSYSTEM)) >> prefix = /mingw64 >> HOST_CPU = x86_64 >> BASIC_LDFLAGS += -Wl,--pic-executable,-e,mainCRTStartup >> + CARGO_BUILD_TARGET = x86_64-pc-windows-gnu > > I've said it when Johannes originally sent this patch[1], but it bears > repeating: The *-pc-windows-gnu targets will pass CI, but would mean > raising the required Windows version from 8.1 to 10. We'd want to use > the *-win7-windows-gnu targets[2] to keep Windows 8.1 supported. It seems that Dscho did not respond on the list to your initial objection in the discussion you cited. I do not think we spell out which releases of various platforms are still supported by us (we do list requirements for platforms in the Platform Support Policy document, though), but in general we should not be attempting to give extended support to systems that the vendor no longer supports. As Windows 8.1 is no longer supported by Microsoft since Jan 2023, and Windows 10 will go out of support in a few month after Oct 2025, if I am reading the table correctly, so as long as we document our intention of dropping a commercial system that is no longer supported by its vender clearly, I do not mind the above that discards 8.1 [*]. But I may be biased, as I do not live in the Microsoft ecosystem. * https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-81 * https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro * https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-and-education