From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: Bashing freelancers Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:06:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20150224220923.GA23344@peff.net> <54F986D6.5000607@drmicha.warpmail.net> <8761aeowff.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tl1q25i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: git To: David Kastrup X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Mar 06 23:07:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YU0Os-0006DZ-C9 for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 23:07:18 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754938AbbCFWHJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:07:09 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.int.icgroup.com ([208.72.237.35]:60936 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754883AbbCFWHB (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:07:01 -0500 Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896C73E1BA; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:07:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=vibWeTDRMzg/wmhgjG2lzalSobA=; b=mvVCJA Hmq98zLUcQ6wGYWrsJRcy+5bPsBsPvPrlSaXCplNDaOjXIeBlNT8yEqMFZPN42+s VeLv8dks3yzkUB3j09z9reCDP70sq2t6UYVYbWyzG5jysssT8lgBkTBghDdDRwU1 Kh68sgQ2C0ia8ouh+l7ZJAvUfx8XG4/fzJyvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=S6pxtFn2RaqoxoCdbux1J+stZv4L/o44 PrGT74MVWvYwgV+5GnH43OkshCk2Hbh8IeKkRjL5CNxwfAhZ/5+v0TJDrHiIeYUb 0NhUqewSR152E5ui+8qzR+D4CArZz/FFcTEhmWWKDzT3wSzLzKoAUEDNFw1FgD03 FxcLrCaYgNg= Received: from pb-smtp1.int.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1503E1B8; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [72.14.226.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D28663E1B6; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:06:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871tl1q25i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:52:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 1C9107C6-C44D-11E4-ADCE-29999F42C9D4-77302942!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Junio C Hamano writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> Good work is worth good money. Suggesting that people who are not able >>> to work for free are morally inferior is not conducive for a cooperative >>> work atmosphere. >> >> Yes, but I do not think anybody did any such thing. > > "Of course, I am hoping that all the mentors are doing GSoC not for > money but out of love of our software and our community," > > Huh. I did not intend any moral judgement in that statement, but after re-reading it, I would say that "not for money" would have been better phrased as "not only for money". Let me clarify. There _could_ be a mentor who hates Git the software and Git the community, who wants to mentor students only for the mentorship stipend. I do not want to see such mentors. I would imagine that such a person surely can find something else that is more enjoyable and do the mentoring there for money, if competent enough to mentor others. And that would be good for everybody.