From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] thin-pack capability for send-pack/receive-pack Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:32:07 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1383750263-32495-1-git-send-email-cmn@elego.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, jrnieder@gmail.com, pclouds@gmail.com To: Carlos =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Nieto X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Nov 06 21:32:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve9lw-0006OW-Cd for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 21:32:16 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755937Ab3KFUcM convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:32:12 -0500 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:45360 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755423Ab3KFUcK convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:32:10 -0500 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22E64EE15; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:32:09 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=Ip0CQLKwlqnh 9XLeOBWAMGqH5D0=; b=C1j9qiKmqJ/r1RMRhe9kaNbI5YOP22Wqv0EzNUCAmNml k48kvFBPmQC1rm4p4zsmXXxPLxAKXqTsPag5+7aYwTnKCrAPxEUNAVot9v1f5ePU E3nMJPSeIn2fhsNX+4PaI1gNBxJRIfZRMQRbz8yC6VmWloVk4LysQFbPq9b/E3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=qfaxzl iq/NGuFjM4bfEGnisM4xToZep97IlQ/EMQtsP/f0D7z9crLbKZ574gGfk+ZlSy4X 3Q48DE7hMd5wZhTJjc4vEvJsJ0AQSmpwmaFaG574FAzFXV1cXYHeHox4xjEPKDwb S2Kv7SB7ZYKaKDPD2RZeIYaOzy1w9P9Paa1tk= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28CE4EE14; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [72.14.226.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 423CA4EE12; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:32:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1383750263-32495-1-git-send-email-cmn@elego.de> ("Carlos =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Nieto"'s message of "Wed, 6 Nov 2013 16:04:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 825C5B18-4722-11E3-B07E-1FFB7F2839F8-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Carlos Mart=C3=ADn Nieto writes: > Hi all, > > This comes as a result of the discussion starting at [0] about > git-push assuming that a server will always support thin packs. Most > out there in fact do, but this isn't necessarily the case. > > Some implementations may not have support for it yet, or the server > might be running in an environment where it is not feasible for it to > try to fill in the missing objects. > > Jonathan and Duy mentioned that separate patches for receive-pack and > send-pack could let us work around adding this at such a late stage, > so here they are. The second patch can maybe lie in waiting for a > while. I'll queue these for now, but I doubt the wisdom of this series, given that the ship has already sailed long time ago. Currently, no third-party implementation of a receiving end can accept thin push, because "thin push" is not a capability that needs to be checked by the current clients. People will have to wait until the clients with 2/2 patch are widely deployed before starting to use such a receiving end that is incapable of "thin push". Wouldn't the world be a better place if instead they used that time waiting to help such a third-party receiving end to implement "thin push" support?