From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B0420188 for ; Sun, 7 May 2017 23:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752541AbdEGXqW (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 May 2017 19:46:22 -0400 Received: from mail-pg0-f65.google.com ([74.125.83.65]:35260 "EHLO mail-pg0-f65.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752150AbdEGXqV (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 May 2017 19:46:21 -0400 Received: by mail-pg0-f65.google.com with SMTP id i63so8091874pgd.2 for ; Sun, 07 May 2017 16:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=w+z+oo4ulDfgrfc2cg6rjCQcQvPRiXYISXe8rlOrtiY=; b=kNwwHaCpRV1p3dQ2Oy7PMqXMGFvWxxwT1OED9kaayNoxWvKMksEWX6qAEgBMVH511C eKyCCECrbhnYoTut9KMl61Bbfhz/4/ZhebdcegqSP0I8dFW3u+1hdYtDI2f1iaKwTSR+ mOGzdphpM+C5sKylwm9JKzWgWCHjgy6F72D4R9ydlpXuWqXDHBbg9ewUCVetlogvaxYl PehL+2WLkhSd/PpqjeHYktXbGE6sr22EmCbJY78Q2yTxpRXplqHqfa5RDXGN6Gm3gbX7 7YfuF3c+WAV0jXo0QEtY9fP3/E75cmoiGH/K4csQe84ORCuqJDKtp4FneNy79dAMCxdM /NsQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=w+z+oo4ulDfgrfc2cg6rjCQcQvPRiXYISXe8rlOrtiY=; b=X03QOs6h+3npiAdBLuKeQDXLVXOkois9o50HIKNAql0gVmJynQ99v8MKY567pS+JVL QZv29/a3Q95K18ZkG9aw9CuYRbU3ZI2FIW/041t8BrrM5o/ztNXLdm2uwRzfNi0jHtFZ GXkg89LWbyPOFXmXBEDEo5HYwnGg5voqaAJqomS2NwMpWweGcF9C0nha+dDqVEL8vD3i 6A7I2VTCTCXiZaeB0QmM3/EtBjUmtCg6eF02iV88HEsWH8kdrnypoU8jiSd4gxAjUsVG ixM0q0sOcuJwtJhn7pgJNtNzZHfMkHAkZu0C7SskrW7j2JjkKFd/aprCTt/D9TIFwWxi cy0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/4mrJ7KhbgcbfAacj1fE6QW8TM3Ff/oExS0Grx+trhKUmg/HjG8 XtKnQZsfiwApEcXfJOA= X-Received: by 10.84.232.141 with SMTP id i13mr45549635plk.143.1494126034308; Sat, 06 May 2017 20:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2620:0:1000:8622:503b:fcc1:2b99:f95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n22sm8606695pfj.27.2017.05.06.20.00.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 May 2017 20:00:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Eric Wong Cc: Samuel Lijin , Jonathan Tirado , Jeff King , "git\@vger.kernel.org" , Brandon Williams , Johannes Schindelin , meta@public-inbox.org Subject: Re: vger not relaying some of Junio's messages today? References: <20170506205041.GA26189@starla> <20170507010537.GA21703@starla> Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 20:00:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20170507010537.GA21703@starla> (Eric Wong's message of "Sun, 7 May 2017 01:05:37 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Eric Wong writes: > Samuel Lijin wrote: >> Sorry, should've been clearer - I did check my spambox in my original >> message. Some old patches from Brandon were in there, but the ones I >> mentioned in my original message just seem to have been dropped. > > Apparently, vger also throttles mail to gmail aggressively, so > maybe some show up eventually: > > https://marc.info/?i=20170501.105057.824365162373797902.davem@davemloft.net > Thanks for a pointer. That does explain the symptom I saw number of times, seeing list traffic that directly came to me hours before I see a copy on the public list mirrors like gmane and public-inbox. As it is a pain to access gmail inbox via imap (I was told that something called "offline imap" may alleviate the pain, but I haven't tried it yet), I tend to use NNTP interface to either gmane or public-inbox almost exclusively, so like everybody else, it often takes a message hours before I see it due to this throttling. I do not see the message I am responding to on public-inbox, and I am responding to the copy I got direct from you, for example.