From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] git help: group common commands by theme Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 11:58:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <554B30D5.3050909@emmajane.net> <554CFEC3.5030105@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Emma Jane Hogbin Westby , git@vger.kernel.org To: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Guimmara X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri May 08 20:59:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YqnUA-00044I-1d for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 20:58:58 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753076AbbEHS6x convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 14:58:53 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp1.int.icgroup.com ([208.72.237.35]:50747 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752755AbbEHS6w convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 14:58:52 -0400 Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF4B4E354; Fri, 8 May 2015 14:58:52 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=3SEkkFKdKavN ZGALmCSv2GZfYLM=; b=hpHjni3VULch9Yl5jaefxLoI+CTSXvZlalmD/bVS4td2 lefh8aKThXiCqwuXaLLgwQhL6VR+et/il0myVyWBnRqvnL901IpsOHB3LkDGO7pz geDm2Chlpu/gwsea0I0mZNshoa3P+yctZWRGtzO3lzS2MQE0ciPj1DlI51VhdSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=Ni5qwS oS+5/QelanQJ0kwUW1fX/LE8QGmnd5/ApuB1vodvAphU29n3nUcGu6/WzrgRiekn RGY3BskEmujmrIZ3iZlPjXRgeZkB40sV9U/qsNEFUvZMox30hjRkDHJd8A7eLEK2 p9FD17K01Z3ly6I+eRTWzPcOsOvHZE+cEJ5Qs= Received: from pb-smtp1.int.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139C84E353; Fri, 8 May 2015 14:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [72.14.226.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C8B94E351; Fri, 8 May 2015 14:58:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <554CFEC3.5030105@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22S=C3=A9bastien?= Guimmara"'s message of "Fri, 08 May 2015 20:21:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 443F93B2-F5B4-11E4-877B-83E09F42C9D4-77302942!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: S=C3=A9bastien Guimmara writes: > On 05/07/2015 11:31 AM, Emma Jane Hogbin Westby wrote: > >>> The most commonly used git commands are: >>> >>> * starting a working area: >>> clone Clone a repository into a new directory >>> init Create an empty Git repository or reinitialize [.= =2E.] >>> >>> * working on the current change: >>> add Add file contents to the index >>> reset Reset current HEAD to the specified state >> I could not live without status at this stage, and status always tel= ls >> me what I should do next. I'm tempted to see it up here instead... > > The layout was not designed to be workflow oriented (even if it appea= rs > so), but rather theme oriented. I tend to agree with Emma here; even if your original ordering was not using the workflow as the grouping criterion, that is something that can easily be fixed, I would think. After all, the very original did not categorize and sorted alphabetically, so there is no room for the "we chose to be theme-oriented (I am not sure what it means, though) and a major redesign at this point will confuse users" kind of resistance to come into the picture. At least not yet. Thanks.