From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2025 14:09:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqikhzdz0k.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1962.v3.git.1756918202.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Julia Evans via GitGitGadget's message of "Wed, 03 Sep 2025 16:49:56 +0000")
"Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> * Improve the storytelling in the commit messages
> * Take a different approach to the git checkout -b description (keep reset
> in -B, but simplify the description of -B a lot)
> * Make the description of git checkout [<branch>] more accurate.
> * Try a different approach to git checkout file.txt ("Discard any unstaged
> changes...")
Not just you repeat having bulleted list in your proposed log
messages (which I already said something about, remember?), now you
have them in your cover letter, too? You must be so fond of
bulletted list X-<.
> @@ Documentation/git-checkout.adoc: $ git log -g -2 HEAD
> -to checkout these paths out of the index.
> +When you run `git checkout <something>`, Git tries to guess whether
> +`<something>` is intended to be a branch, a commit, or a set of file(s),
> -+and then switches branches, switches commits, or restores the files.
> ++and then either switches to that branch or commit or restores the
> ++specified files.
Much better.
> ++ Switch to _<branch>_. This sets the current branch to _<branch>_ and
> ++ updates the files in your working directory. Files which are
> ++ identical in _<branch>_ and your current commit are left unchanged
> ++ so that you can keep your uncommitted changes to those files.
Here "left unchanged" is technically correct, but somehow it gives
me a (n incorrect) connotation that they are not modified since
HEAD, which is not what you wanted to say at all. I recall that we
once explained this not as "left unchanged", but as "changes follow
you", and I found the explanation easier to absorb.
I cannot come up with a good way to remove duplicates in the
following desciption, but what we want the reader to understand are
twofold:
* For paths that are not identical between HEAD and the _<branch>_
you are switching to, you MUST NOT have a local change. After
you switch to _<branch>_, these paths in the working tree match
that of the _<branch_>. This is to avoid losing your local
changes.
* For paths that are identical between HEAD and the _<branch>_ you
are switching to, you may have local modifications, and they
follow you to the switched-to _<branch>_.
> ++`git checkout -b <new-branch> [<start-point>]`::
> ++
> ++ Create a new branch named _<new-branch>_, start it at _<start-point>_
> ++ (defaults to the current commit), and check out the new branch.
> ++ You can use the `--track` or `--no-track` options to set the branch's
> ++ upstream tracking information.
> +
> ++This fails without making any changes if there's an error checking out
> ++_<new-branch>_, for example if checking out the `<start-point>`
> ++commit would overwrite your uncommitted changes.
OK. Do people understand "making a(ny) changes" refers to creation
of the new branch, I have to wonder, but if so, the above is much
much nicer than the original text.
This fails without doing anything and without creating a new
branch, if checking out the <start-point> has to overwrite your
uncommitted changes.
might be slightly better? I dunno.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-03 21:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-25 19:08 [PATCH 0/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 18:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 18:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 20:56 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 14:00 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-28 22:34 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 23:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 13:39 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-29 21:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 23:48 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 21:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 12:11 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 18:24 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] doc: git-checkout: don't use "reset" Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 5/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 22:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 13:26 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 19:08 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-28 19:59 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 20:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 13:48 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 15:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-02 17:14 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 16:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-02 17:16 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] doc: git-checkout: don't use "reset" Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-01 14:28 ` Julia Evans
2025-09-02 16:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify `-b` and `-B` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] doc: git-checkout: split up restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 21:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 21:09 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-09-03 21:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro sentence Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify ARGUMENT DISAMBIGUATION Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify `-b` and `-B` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-29 18:07 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-10-02 18:37 ` [PATCH] doc: git-checkout: fix placeholder markup kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-10-16 22:11 ` [PATCH resend] " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-10-17 13:56 ` Julia Evans
2025-10-17 15:50 ` [PATCH v2] " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] doc: git-checkout: split up restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-11 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Ben Knoble
2025-09-12 14:05 ` Julia Evans
2025-09-12 14:26 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-15 23:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-16 6:41 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-12 16:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 18:38 ` Junio C Hamano
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