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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Cc: git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] signed push: final protocol update
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:38:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqiolfhwhi.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJo=hJs3m-0u7NkPHJqvk4qZBGtPguck-xn=in3m-+30UxDQoA@mail.gmail.com> (Shawn Pearce's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:33:58 -0700")

Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> writes:

> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> writes:
>>
>>> A stateless nonce could look like:
>>>
>>>   nonce = HMAC_SHA1( SHA1(site+path) + '.' + now, site_key )
>>>
>>> where site_key is a private key known to the server. It doesn't have
>>> to be per-repo.
>>>
>>> receive-pack would then be willing to accept any nonce whose timestamp
>>> is within a window, e.g. 10 minutes of the current time, and whose
>>> signature verifies in the HMAC. The 10 minute window is important to
>>> allow clients time to generate the object list, perform delta
>>> compression, and begin transmitting to the server.
>>
>> Hmph, don't you send the "finally tell the other end" the sequence
>> of "update this ref from old to new" and the packdata separately?
>
> No. The command list (triples of old, new, ref) is sent in the same
> HTTP request as the pack data, ahead of the pack data. So its one
> request.

That is unfortunate.  Would it be a major surgery to update the
protocol not to do that, perhaps by moving the command list from 3
to 2 (the latter of which is not currently doing anything useful
payload-wise, other than flushing a HTTP request early)?

> Push on smart HTTP is 3 HTTP requests:
>
>   1)  get advertisement
>   2)  POST empty flush packet to tickle auth (literally just "0000").
>   3)  POST command list + pack
>
> The nonce can be sent server->client in 1, and client->server in 3.
>
>>  I
>> think we have a FLUSH in between, and the push certificate is given
>> before the FLUSH, which you do not have to wait for 10 minutes.
>
> Nope I think you need to wait for the pack to generate enough to start
> sending the pack data stream. Nothing forces the smart HTTP client to
> push its pending buffer out. We wait for the pack data to either
> finish, or overflow the in-memory buffer, and then start transmitting.
> If your client needs a lot of time for counting and delta compression,
> we aren't likely to overflow and transmit for a while.
>
> If you send a _lot_ of refs you can overflow, which will cause us to
> transmit early. But we are talking about megabytes worth of (old, new,
> ref) triplets to reach that overflow point.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-19 22:06 [PATCH 00/18] Signed push Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 01/18] receive-pack: do not overallocate command structure Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 02/18] receive-pack: parse feature request a bit earlier Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 03/18] receive-pack: do not reuse old_sha1[] to other things Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 04/18] receive-pack: factor out queueing of command Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 05/18] send-pack: move REF_STATUS_REJECT_NODELETE logic a bit higher Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 06/18] send-pack: refactor decision to send update per ref Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 07/18] send-pack: always send capabilities Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 08/18] send-pack: factor out capability string generation Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 09/18] send-pack: rename "new_refs" to "need_pack_data" Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 10/18] send-pack: refactor inspecting and resetting status and sending commands Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 11/18] send-pack: clarify that cmds_sent is a boolean Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 12/18] gpg-interface: move parse_gpg_output() to where it should be Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 13/18] gpg-interface: move parse_signature() " Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 14/18] pack-protocol doc: typofix for PKT-LINE Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 15/18] the beginning of the signed push Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  2:48   ` brian m. carlson
2014-08-20  6:57   ` Bert Wesarg
2014-08-20 23:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 16/18] receive-pack: GPG-validate push certificates Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20 16:56   ` David Turner
2014-08-20 17:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20 17:56       ` David Turner
2014-08-20 19:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-21 23:59           ` David Turner
2014-08-22  0:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 17/18] send-pack: send feature request on push-cert packet Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 18/18] signed push: final protocol update Junio C Hamano
2014-08-21 19:28   ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-21 23:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22  3:06       ` Kyle J. McKay
2014-08-22 17:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 23:54         ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-25 17:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-26 17:33             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-26 19:38               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-08-26 19:52                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-04 23:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-05  2:41             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-22  4:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22  0:22   ` David Turner
2014-08-19 23:07 ` [PATCH 00/18] Signed push Duy Nguyen
2014-08-19 23:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  1:19 ` Nico Williams
2014-08-20  2:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  5:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  2:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  6:28   ` Nico Williams
2014-08-22 19:59 ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 20:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 20:22     ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 20:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 20:38         ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 22:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 22:51             ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-25 17:54               ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-25 18:38                 ` Jason Pyeron

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