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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: pre-v2.34.0-rc0 regressions: 'git log' has a noisy iconv() warning
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:04:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqmtmuwdh9.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXk0hAgaSJbLUgeB@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2021 07:14:12 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> The firehose of warnings for "git log --encoding=nonsense" was known and
> discussed in fd680bc558 (logmsg_reencode(): warn when iconv() fails,
> 2021-08-27). It's ugly for sure, but I'm still OK with it for the
> reasoning there: your next step is to fix the --encoding argument you
> gave. Whether you saw one line of warning or many is not that important,
> IMHO. Giving a single more sensible warning ("your encoding 'nonsense'
> isn't valid") would be better, but I think it's hard to do without
> creating other problems.
>
> But the most compelling argument against warning at all is the case you
> gave earlier: that there may be historical garbage commits, and you
> can't get rid of them, so being warned constantly that we're not going
> to show or grep them correctly is just annoying. And that is true
> whether the user sees one warning or a hundred.

Is it really a "firehose"?  I won't use the word for one warning
message per commit in the output of "git log --encoding=nonsense".

If you are running "git log --oneline", it may indeed be annoying to
double the number of lines shown, and indeed

    $ git log --oneline --encoding=US-ASCII -4 ab/doc-lint
    warning: unable to reencode commit to 'US-ASCII'
    414abf159f docs: fix linting issues due to incorrect relative section order
    warning: unable to reencode commit to 'US-ASCII'
    ea8b9271b1 doc lint: lint relative section order
    warning: unable to reencode commit to 'US-ASCII'
    cafd9828e8 doc lint: lint and fix missing "GIT" end sections
    warning: unable to reencode commit to 'US-ASCII'
    d2c9908076 doc lint: fix bugs in, simplify and improve lint script

is indeed annoying, as everything that is _shown_ ought to be
presentable in US-ASCII.  This observation makes us realize an
obvious approach to improve over the current behaviour without
losing the warning when it matters, but I think the required code
change, to first split the commit message into pieces (which roughly
corresponds to the atoms in the --format= placeholder language) and
reencode only these pieces that will be shown, may be too involved
to be worth the effort.

> So while I do hate to have Git just silently ignore errors, probably the
> original behavior is the least-bad thing, and we should just revert
> fd680bc558 (logmsg_reencode(): warn when iconv() fails, 2021-08-27). We
> probably want to salvage the documentation change (minus the "along with
> a warning") part.

I am all for making it convenient to squelch, but it would be sad to
lose the convenient way to notice possible misencoding in recent
commits.  Or can we have a command line option and pass it through
the callchain, or would that be too involved?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-26  3:48 What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25) Junio C Hamano
2021-10-26  5:25 ` Jeff King
2021-10-27 17:42   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-31 18:36   ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2021-11-01  4:04     ` Jeff King
2021-10-26 11:02 ` pre-v2.34.0-rc0 regressions: t7900-maintenance.sh broken due to 'systemd-analyze' (was: What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25)) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 15:34   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 18:43     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-02 14:24   ` [PATCH] maintenance tests: fix systemd v2.34.0-rc* test regression Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03  5:09     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-10  3:52     ` [PATCH v2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10 13:36       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-10 16:22         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-11 17:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-26 11:15 ` pre-v2.34.0-rc0 regressions: 'git log' has a noisy iconv() warning (was: What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25)) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 11:14   ` Jeff King
2021-10-27 18:04     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-10-28 17:30       ` pre-v2.34.0-rc0 regressions: 'git log' has a noisy iconv() warning Jeff King
2021-10-28 19:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-28 19:17           ` Jeff King
2021-10-26 12:13 ` tb/plug-pack-bitmap-leaks (was: What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25)) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 21:04   ` Taylor Blau
2021-10-26 12:17 ` jc/branch-copy-doc " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 12:42 ` What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25) Derrick Stolee
2021-10-26 14:55   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 17:27     ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-26 21:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-26 21:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-26 21:54     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-10-26 22:21 ` regression in ns/tmp-objdir and ns/batched-fsync Neeraj Singh
2021-10-27 19:17 ` What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2021, #06; Mon, 25) Martin Ågren
2021-10-28  0:06   ` Junio C Hamano

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