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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] sha1_file: open window into packfiles with O_CLOEXEC
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:48:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqshrg1ksv.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw93vkraxBvFCXFSYJqn836tXW+OCOFuToN+HaxTcJ7cg@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:13:41 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> You guys. I mean: You guys! You sure make my life hard. A brief look at
>> mingw.h could have answered your implicit question:
>
> So here's what you guys should do:
>
>  - leave O_NOATIME damn well alone. It works. It has worked for 10+
> years. Stop arguing against it, people who do.
>
>  - get rid of all O_CLOEXEC games. They don't work. If you want to
> close file descriptors at execve(), you - gasp - close the file
> descriptor before doing an execve.
>
> So O_CLOEXEC or FD_CLOEXEC is broken.
>
> DO NOT BREAK O_NOATIME JUST TO ADD COMPLETELY NEW BREAKAGE.

Excuse me, but care to elaborate a bit more?

Did I botch the way I ask fcntl(2) to set O_NOATIME in *1*?  Its
follow-up in *2* is optional and as peff said in *3*, I do not think
we mind dropping that step and keeping O_NOATIME.  It is not that
much code to keep.

Setting FD_CLOEXEC with fcntl(2) may be racy, but in what way
it is broken to open(2) with O_CLOEXEC?

If we want to close file descriptors we opened at execve() time
ourselves, we'd need to somehow keep track of which file descriptors
are meant to be closed upon execve() time, and one way to mark that
may be to use O_CLOEXEC, but once we mark a file descriptor with the
bit, execve() would take care of "closing" it for us---wouldn't that
be the whole point of that bit?


*1* http://public-inbox.org/git/xmqqh97w38gj.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com
*2* http://public-inbox.org/git/xmqqd1ik38f4.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com
*3* http://public-inbox.org/git/20161028075104.la24zydnr3ogb6qv@sigill.intra.peff.net

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-28 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-24 18:02 [PATCH v2 0/2] Use CLOEXEC to avoid fd leaks larsxschneider
2016-10-24 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] sha1_file: open window into packfiles with CLOEXEC larsxschneider
2016-10-25 10:27   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-10-25 16:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-24 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] read-cache: make sure file handles are not inherited by child processes larsxschneider
2016-10-24 18:39   ` Eric Wong
2016-10-24 19:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 10:33       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-10-25 17:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-24 19:22   ` Johannes Sixt
2016-10-24 19:53     ` Lars Schneider
2016-10-25 21:39       ` Johannes Sixt
2016-10-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Use CLOEXEC to avoid fd leaks Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 11:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-10-25 18:16   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] quick reroll of Lars's git_open() w/ O_CLOEXEC Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 18:16     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] sha1_file: rename git_open_noatime() to git_open() Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 18:16     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] sha1_file: open window into packfiles with O_CLOEXEC Junio C Hamano
2016-10-26  4:25       ` Jeff King
2016-10-26 16:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-26 16:47           ` Jeff King
2016-10-26 17:52             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-26 20:17               ` Jeff King
2016-10-26 21:15                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-27 10:24                   ` Jeff King
2016-10-27 21:49                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-27 22:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-27 22:56                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-27 23:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-27 23:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-27 23:36                             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-27 23:44                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-28  1:08                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-28  2:37                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-28  5:51                                     ` Eric Wong
2016-10-28 11:11                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-10-28 16:13                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-28 16:48                                         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-10-28 17:38                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-28 17:47                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-29  1:26                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-29  8:25                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-10-29 17:06                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-31 17:37                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-31 13:56                                         ` Jeff King
2016-10-31 17:55                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-31 18:05                                             ` Jeff King
2016-10-28 13:32                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-28 13:33                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-28  7:51                       ` Jeff King
2016-10-25 18:16     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] read-cache: make sure file handles are not inherited by child processes Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 21:33       ` Eric Wong
2016-10-25 22:54         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-25 21:48     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] quick reroll of Lars's git_open() w/ O_CLOEXEC Lars Schneider
2016-10-25 22:56       ` Junio C Hamano

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