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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  jonathantanmy@google.com,
	 chooglen@google.com, ps@pks.im,
	 Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] fetch: add --must-have and remote.*.mustHave
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2026 11:59:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqv7e1xoqp.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.2085.git.1775658970.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget's message of "Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:36:06 +0000")

"Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

> Based on my understanding, the '--negotiation-tip' option is close but not
> quite what I want. I could have the client only advertise 'release' and
> 'main' and never advertise any user branches. But then we'd download all
> content from each user branch every time it updates. Perhaps this would
> happen even with opportunistic inclusion of more haves, but I'd like to
> explore this area more.
>
> There's also an issue that the '--negotiation-tip' feature doesn't seem to
> have a config key that enables it without CLI arguments. This is something
> that we could consider independently.
> ...
> Big picture questions to think about:
>
>  * Is this a valuable addition to the fetch negotiation?
>  * Is the interaction between --must-have and --negotiation-tip correct?
>  * Is the "must have" name sensical to users? I expect that this only
>    matters to experts, but I'm open to better names that could be more
>    self-documenting.
>  * Should we add a similar config key for --negotiation-tip?

Just like you, I hate the name "must have", but stepping back a bit,
would it work if we add a single boolean option that says "use the
negotiation tips as the primary source of 'have's you'd send, but
unlike the way how the original negotiation-tip feature worked
without this bit enabled, which did not send anything other than the
ones reachable by negotiation tips, do advertise opportunistically
other tips", essentially turning the existing negotiation-tips
feature into your must-have feature?  You could even call the option
"--negotiate-better(=(yes|no))" or something, perhaps?




  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-08 14:36 [PATCH 0/4] fetch: add --must-have and remote.*.mustHave Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-08 14:36 ` [PATCH 1/4] t5516: fix test order flakiness Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-08 14:36 ` [PATCH 2/4] fetch: add --must-have option for negotiation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-08 14:36 ` [PATCH 3/4] remote: add mustHave config as default for --must-have Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-08 14:36 ` [PATCH 4/4] send-pack: pass --must-have for push negotiation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-08 18:59 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-04-09 12:53   ` [PATCH 0/4] fetch: add --must-have and remote.*.mustHave Derrick Stolee
2026-04-15 15:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] fetch: rework negotiation tip options Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] t5516: fix test order flakiness Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] fetch: add --negotiation-restrict option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 21:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-19 23:00       ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-20 10:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-20 11:35           ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] transport: rename negotiation_tips Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-20  8:11     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 19:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] fetch: add --negotiation-require option for negotiation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 19:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-21 18:06       ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-20  8:11     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-20 11:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] remote: add negotiationRequire config as default for --negotiation-require Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-15 15:14   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] send-pack: pass negotiation config in push Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-22 15:25   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] fetch: rework negotiation tip options Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] t5516: fix test order flakiness Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 10:50       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] fetch: add --negotiation-restrict option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 11:11       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-12 14:23         ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] transport: rename negotiation_tips Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 11:30       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-12 14:33         ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 12:29       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-12 14:52         ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 14:38       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-12 16:54         ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 14:54       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-12 17:55         ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] send-pack: pass negotiation config in push Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12 15:14       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2026-05-14 12:41     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] fetch: rework negotiation tip options Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] t5516: fix test order flakiness Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] fetch: add --negotiation-restrict option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] transport: rename negotiation_tips Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] negotiator: add have_sent() interface Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-05-14 12:41       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] send-pack: pass negotiation config in push Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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