From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Lucas Seiki Oshiro <lucasseikioshiro@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de,
ben.knoble@gmail.com, phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk,
jltobler@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [GSoC PATCH v5 1/5] repo: declare the repo command
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 09:06:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwm7xindq.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIHRCz_qswp7RgSy@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:22:03 +0200")
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>> True.
>>
>> I also wonder who it helps to use <LF> as a field separator. Once
>> we require consumers to properly handle <NUL>, it does not make it
>> easier to write such a consumer script if the format uses <LF>
>> there, does it? Besides, wouldn't it possible that field may have
>> to contain any end-user specified key, including <LF>? If so, we'd
>> need to have some quoting/unquoting mechanism in the syntax anyway,
>> so the behefit of using <NUL> to simplify the parser would already
>> be lost.
>
> Scripts should always use NUL, true. But sometimes a user may want to
> inspect these key-value pairs, as well, just to double check a certain
> property of the repository, or to figure out how a certain property
> looks like while writing a script that parses the same key-value but
> NUL-separated pairs. Using NUL bytes would be a bit of a pain in that
> situation.
True. I do not think the discussion so far had much focus on
helping human users doing ad-hoc inspection, and NUL can be annoying
for such use cases (even though tr is your friend).
> I'm not really too sure whether we need to bother with quoting. The
> LF-separated output shouldn't ever be used in a script, so I don't mind
> too much whether it always works. But I guess it wouldn't be hard either
> to just have something like:
>
> if (uses_newline)
> quote_c_style(...);
>
> So with that in mind it's probably better to just do the right thing.
The right thing being...? Use <LF> as a record separator to avoid
forcing <NUL> on possible human readers, and adopt quoting in a rare
case where <LF>s or <NUL>s need to be in the payload? Or something
else?
Thanks.
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2025-06-10 15:21 [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 1/5] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 8:59 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 2/5] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 9:30 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 17:56 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-13 7:31 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 3/5] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 12:59 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 15:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 4/5] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 13:13 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 19:39 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-12 19:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 5/5] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-10 16:39 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-06-10 16:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-12 20:25 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-12 21:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-16 22:19 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-16 22:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19 1:44 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 13:17 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/7] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 1/7] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 7:36 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23 9:19 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23 19:04 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 7:56 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-24 14:03 ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-03 11:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-04 21:40 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-07 6:01 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-09 20:05 ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 2/7] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 8:06 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20 21:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-03 11:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 3/7] repo-info: add plaintext as an output format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 21:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-03 11:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 4/7] repo-info: add the --allow-empty flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 9:54 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23 2:39 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 21:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23 9:26 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23 20:28 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 5/7] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 22:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-24 14:03 ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-24 15:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-25 8:40 ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-03 11:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-04 21:11 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 6/7] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-03 11:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-03 14:14 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-04 8:32 ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 7/7] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-23 13:42 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/7] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Phillip Wood
2025-06-23 18:49 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-24 13:03 ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-24 13:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 22:18 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-02 9:10 ` phillip.wood123
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 0/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 1/5] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 2/5] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 3/5] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 4/5] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 5/5] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-08 10:11 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Phillip Wood
2025-07-08 19:27 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-10 13:15 ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-11 17:13 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-11 17:37 ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 0/4] repo: " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 1/4] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 11:52 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-15 11:59 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-15 18:38 ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-20 19:51 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 18:19 ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 2/4] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
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2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 3/4] repo: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 4/4] repo: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
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2025-07-15 11:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
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2025-07-15 16:49 ` Junio C Hamano
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2025-07-16 20:33 ` Junio C Hamano
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2025-07-22 0:28 ` [GSoC PATCH v5 0/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
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2025-08-07 5:20 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 19:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v8 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-06 19:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v8 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 5:20 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 15:44 ` Junio C Hamano
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2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
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2025-08-13 21:46 ` Eric Sunshine
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2025-08-14 13:58 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-11 5:21 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-14 18:22 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-14 18:32 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-14 18:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14 22:05 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-15 1:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14 22:18 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-14 23:41 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-11 5:44 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-08 5:45 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-08 15:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 9:20 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 1/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 19:12 ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 19:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 19:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-16 22:45 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:45 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 1/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-17 16:21 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Junio C Hamano
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