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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] CodingGuidelines: describe naming rules for configuration variables
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 14:34:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwq418dmp.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150201215729.GA19692@peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Sun, 1 Feb 2015 16:57:30 -0500")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> From the user's perspective, I don't see how the implied relationships
> are significantly different. In type 1, they are placed inside a single
> value and in type 2, they are not. Both are a form of grouping.
>
> Moreover, I am not even sure that the syntax is an important element in
> communicating semantic relationships.

I think we are in agreement and I do not see how you can draw
different conclusions.  The above argument refutes the point Michael
made a big deal out of, which was that "these are individual and
independent bools in the implementation detail of the code, expose
that as such to the end users."  I do not buy that point, i.e. it is
not a good argument to favor style 2 over style 1, which was the
primary thing I wanted to illustrate in the message you are
responding to.

>   1. I'm a user who has set my preferred core.whitespace in my
>      ~/.gitconfig. A particular project I am working on uses an
>      alternate tabwidth. How do I set that in the repo config without
>      repeating my defaults?

Isn't it cumulative?  At least it should be (but I wouldn't be too
surprised if the recent config reader caching broke it).

>   2. I'm writing a hook whose behavior depends on the whitespace
>      settings. How do I ask git whether blank-at-eol is enabled?

If that becomes an issue, "git config" would have to learn about
them, just like it knows about how to do --color depending on the
tty-ness of the output.

>   3. I'm a user who wants to set whitespace config. I prefer using "git
>      config" to editing the file manually. How do I turn off
>      blank-at-eol without disrupting my existing settings?

See above 1.

>> I see Peff cites "pager.<cmd>", but I think it was something that we
>> would rather shouldn't have done, similar to "alias.<cmd>".  They
>> are bad precedents we shouldn't encourage new things to mimic.
>> 
>> But that is not from "one-variable-with-list-is-better" (it is not
>> better for these "independent" ones) but is purely from the syntax
>> point of view.
>
> Yeah, I'd agree that the problem there is orthogonal to the type 1/2
> thing above. I don't think it has been a big deal in practice, just
> because people with good taste do not name their commands with uppercase
> anyway.
>
> I'd be happy to transition to pager.*.enabled, etc, if we care.

I have no strong opinion.  It was primarily meant to illustrate why
pager.<cmd> and alias.<cmd> were bad precedents that should not be
used to support design of future things.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-01 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-26 16:55 [PATCH] Documentation/git-add.txt: add `add.ginore-errors` configuration variable Alexander Kuleshov
2015-01-26 21:58 ` Eric Sunshine
2015-01-27 20:17   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-01-28 22:33     ` [PATCH 0/3] Documenting naming rules for configuration variables Junio C Hamano
2015-01-28 22:33       ` [PATCH 1/3] config.txt: clarify that add.ignore-errors is deprecated Junio C Hamano
2015-01-28 22:33       ` [PATCH 2/3] config.txt: mark deprecated variables more prominently Junio C Hamano
2015-01-28 22:33       ` [PATCH 3/3] CodingGuidelines: describe naming rules for configuration variables Junio C Hamano
2015-02-01  5:12         ` Michael Haggerty
2015-02-01 16:44           ` Jeff King
2015-02-01 20:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-01 21:57             ` Jeff King
2015-02-01 22:34               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-02-02 11:31                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-02-02 18:39               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-02  6:47             ` Michael Haggerty
2015-02-02 18:54               ` Junio C Hamano

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