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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0 of 3] [RFC] I/O Hints
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:16:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1hcc7mkgn.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080605104042.GB20308@shareable.org> (Jamie Lokier's message of "Thu\, 5 Jun 2008 11\:40\:42 +0100")

>>>>> "Jamie" == Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> writes:

Jamie> Does it handle devices with different properties in differeng
Jamie> offset ranges?  E.g. a RAID setup where the first 100GB have
Jamie> one stripe width, but the next 100GB have a different stripe
Jamie> width - as you can get if you join two different hardware RAIDs
Jamie> with LVM, for example.

I touched on this in my reply to Andreas.  The values exported in
sysfs are only part of the solution.  We'll still need some
intelligence (in libdisk or elsewhere) to traverse the stacked device.
And that's better done in user land where it's easier to notify the
operator or ask for confirmation.


Jamie> If it's a set of drives, doesn't it need to return multiple
Jamie> offsets, and drive identities?

Given the almost infinite amount of stacking and concatenation options
I think we'll quickly get into FIEMAP territory.  Add snapshots to the
mix and mapping out the characteristics quickly becomes unmanageable.

If we present the mkfs writers with a list of 200 regions with
different alignment criteria and stripe sizes I'm sure they'll get
very unhappy.

So instead of publishing all this information I'd much rather have
libdisk do a rudimentary check and make it a binary "looks good"
vs. "may have performance problems".

If some poor mkfs souls wantsto traverse the entire stack and actually
make the filesystem layout completely heterogeneous, my patch also
allows them to do that...

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-06  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-05  5:22 [PATCH 0 of 3] [RFC] I/O Hints Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-05  5:22 ` [PATCH 1 of 3] block: Export I/O hints for block devices and partitions Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-05 14:42   ` James Bottomley
2008-06-06  1:18     ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-06 14:21   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-05  5:22 ` [PATCH 2 of 3] md: Export preferred I/O sizes and physical alignment Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-05  5:22 ` [PATCH 3 of 3] sd: Export preferred I/O sizes Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-05 11:25   ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-05  6:27 ` [PATCH 0 of 3] [RFC] I/O Hints Andreas Dilger
2008-06-05 10:32   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-05 12:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-05 17:02     ` Dan Williams
2008-06-06  1:03   ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-06 14:02     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-06 16:48       ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-09 10:47         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10  2:17           ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-05 10:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-05 19:19   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-06 12:55     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-06  1:16   ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2008-06-06  4:51     ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-06 16:53       ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-07 20:54         ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-09 15:05           ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-06-06 12:52     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-06 14:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-06 16:56   ` Martin K. Petersen

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