From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 15:14:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1o7hnzbsy.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230920191442.3701673-1-bvanassche@acm.org> (Bart Van Assche's message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2023 12:14:25 -0700")
Hi Bart!
> Zoned UFS vendors need the data temperature information. Hence this
> patch series that restores write hint information in F2FS and in the
> block layer. The SCSI disk (sd) driver is modified such that it passes
> write hint information to SCSI devices via the GROUP NUMBER field.
I don't have any particular problems with your implementation, although
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to make this coexist with my
I/O hinting series. But I guess there's probably not going to be a big
overlap between devices that support both features.
However, it still pains me greatly to see the SBC proposal being
intertwined with the travesty that is streams. Why not define everything
in the IO advice hints group descriptor? I/O hints already use GROUP
NUMBER as an index. Why not just define a few permanent hint
descriptors? What's the point of the additional level of indirection to
tie this new feature into streams? RSCS basically says "ignore the
streams-specific bits and bobs and do this other stuff instead". What
does the streams infrastructure provide that can't be solved trivially
in the IO advise mode page alone?
For existing UFS devices which predate RSCS and streams but which
support getting data temperature from GROUP NUMBER, what is the
mechanism for detecting and enabling the feature?
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-27 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-20 19:14 [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] fs/f2fs: Restore the whint_mode mount option Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:32 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:33 ` Bean Huo
2023-10-05 11:41 ` Daejun Park
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] fs: Restore support for F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT and F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:35 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:42 ` Bean Huo
2023-10-05 11:43 ` Daejun Park
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] fs: Restore kiocb.ki_hint Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:45 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 16:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: Restore write hint support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:23 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 18:08 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:52 ` Bean Huo
2023-10-05 11:46 ` Daejun Park
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:29 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-05 11:58 ` Daejun Park
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] scsi_proto: Add struct io_group_descriptor Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:41 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 18:16 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-05 11:59 ` Daejun Park
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] sd: Translate data lifetime information Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 13:11 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 5:48 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 16:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 16:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] scsi_debug: Reduce code duplication Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 6:49 ` Avri Altman
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] scsi_debug: Support the block limits extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] scsi_debug: Rework page code error handling Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] scsi_debug: Rework subpage " Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] scsi_debug: Implement the IO Advice Hints Grouping mode page Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] scsi_debug: Maintain write statistics per group number Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:28 ` [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-20 20:46 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 7:46 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-09-21 14:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 15:34 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-09-21 17:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 19:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-21 19:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 19:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-21 20:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 20:47 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-09-27 19:14 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2023-09-27 20:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:38 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 11:53 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 16:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 19:19 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 17:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 1:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-03 17:26 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 18:45 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-04 3:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
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