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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH kvmtool 09/10] vfio/iommufd: Add viommu and vdevice objects
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 13:43:21 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5att2u9jvi.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIiXSNgqt_6xuaRD@google.com>

Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 10:49:31AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>> Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sun, May 25, 2025 at 01:19:15PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
>> >> This also allocates a stage1 bypass and stage2 translate table.
>> >
>> > So this makes IOMMUFD only working with SMMUv3?
>> >
>> > I don’t understand what is the point of this configuration? It seems to add
>> > extra complexity and extra hw constraints and no extra value.
>> >
>> > Not related to this patch, do you have plans to add some of the other iommufd
>> > features, I think things such as page faults might be useful?
>> >
>> 
>> The primary goal of adding viommu/vdevice support is to enable kvmtool
>> to serve as the VMM for ARM CCA secure device development. This requires
>> a viommu implementation so that a KVM file descriptor can be associated
>> with the corresponding viommu.
>> 
>> The full set of related patches is available here:
>> https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/kvmtool-cca/-/tree/cca/tdisp-upstream-post-v1
>
> I see, but I don't understand why we need a nested setup in that case?
> How would having bypassed stage-1 change things?
>

I might be misunderstanding the viommu/vdevice setup, but I was under
the impression that it requires an `IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT`-type
HWPT allocation.

Based on that, I expected the viommu allocation to look something like this:

	alloc_viommu.size = sizeof(alloc_viommu);
	alloc_viommu.flags =  IOMMU_VIOMMU_KVM_FD;
	alloc_viommu.type = IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_ARM_SMMUV3;
	alloc_viommu.dev_id = vdev->bound_devid;
	alloc_viommu.hwpt_id = alloc_hwpt.out_hwpt_id;
	alloc_viommu.kvm_vm_fd = kvm->vm_fd;

	if (ioctl(iommu_fd, IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC, &alloc_viommu)) {

Could you clarify if this is the correct usage pattern, or whether a
different HWPT setup is expected here?

>
> Also, In case we do something like this, I'd suggest to make it clear
> for the command line that this is SMMUv3/CCA only, and maybe move
> some of the code to arm64/
>

My intent wasn't to make this SMMUv3-specific. Ideally, we could make
the IOMMU type a runtime option in `lkvm`.

The main requirement here is the ability to create a `vdevice` and
use that in the VFIO setup flow.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-30  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-25  7:49 [RFC PATCH kvmtool 01/10] vfio: Associate vm instance with vfio fd Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 02/10] vfio: Rename some functions Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:20   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  4:53     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 03/10] vfio: Create new file legacy.c Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:23   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  4:59     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 04/10] vfio: Update vfio header from linux kernel Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:23   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 05/10] vfio: Add dma map/unmap handlers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:25   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  5:03     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 06/10] vfio/iommufd: Import iommufd header from kernel Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:25   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 07/10] vfio/iommufd: Add basic iommufd support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:31   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  5:12     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29  9:38       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 08/10] vfio/iommufd: Move the hwpt allocation to helper Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:32   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  5:14     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29  9:43       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 09/10] vfio/iommufd: Add viommu and vdevice objects Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-21 12:27   ` Will Deacon
2025-07-24 14:09     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:33       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-08-08 13:00         ` Will Deacon
2025-08-11  6:16           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-27 18:35   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29  5:19     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29  9:41       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-30  8:13         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2025-07-30 14:15           ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-31  4:39             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 15:07               ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-05-25  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 10/10] util/update_headers: Add vfio related header files to update list Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-27 18:35   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-27 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 01/10] vfio: Associate vm instance with vfio fd Mostafa Saleh

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