From: mans@mansr.com (Måns Rullgård)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: alignment faults in 3.6
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:18:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1x8vbcndlb.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121012110750.GE21164@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (Russell King's message of "Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:07:50 +0100")
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> writes:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:00:03PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
>> Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> writes:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 08:11:42AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> >> On Thursday 11 October 2012, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
>> >> > > But, the IP header is expected to be aligned.
>> >> >
>> >> > Everything tells the compiler the struct is perfectly aligned. When the
>> >> > buggy driver passes a misaligned pointer, bad things happen.
>> >>
>> >> Would it be appropriate to add a WARN_ON_ONCE() in the alignment
>> >> fault path then?
>>
>> I think that's an excellent idea.
>
> Well, I get the last word here and it's no.
Sadly, yes.
>> >> If all alignment faults in the kernel are caused by broken drivers,
>> >> that would at least give us some hope of finding those drivers while
>> >> at the same time not causing much overhead in the case where we need
>> >> to do the fixup in the meantime.
>> >
>> > No. It is my understanding that various IP option processing can also
>> > cause the alignment fault handler to be invoked, even when the packet is
>> > properly aligned, and then there's jffs2/mtd which also relies upon
>> > alignment faults being fixed up.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned, this is all hearsay, and I've only ever heard
>> it from you. Why can't you let those who care fix these bugs instead?
>
> You know, I'm giving you the benefit of my _knowledge_ which has been
> built over the course of the last 20 years.
How proud you sound. Now could you say something of substance instead?
> I've been in these discussions with networking people before. I ended
> up having to develop the alignment fault handler because of those
> discussions. And oh look, Eric confirmed that the networking code
> isn't going to get "fixed" as you were demanding, which is exactly
> what I said.
Funny, I saw him say the exact opposite:
So if you find an offender, please report a bug, because I can
guarantee you we will _fix_ it.
> I've been in discussions with MTD people over these issues before, I've
> discussed this with David Woodhouse when it came up in JFFS2. I *KNOW*
> these things.
In the same way you "know" the networking people won't fix their code,
despite them _clearly_ stating the opposite?
> You can call it hearsay if you wish, but it seems to be more accurate
> than your wild outlandish and pathetic statements.
So you're resorting to name-calling. Not taking that bait.
--
M?ns Rullg?rd
mans at mansr.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-12 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-04 23:10 alignment faults in 3.6 Rob Herring
2012-10-05 0:58 ` Michael Hope
2012-10-05 1:26 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 1:56 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05 2:25 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 3:04 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05 5:37 ` Khem Raj
2012-10-05 7:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 8:20 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 8:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 8:33 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 8:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 8:37 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 8:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 13:49 ` Mikael Pettersson
2012-10-05 12:24 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05 13:51 ` Mikael Pettersson
2012-10-05 16:01 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05 22:37 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 22:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-06 1:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-10-06 16:04 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-06 16:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-10-06 16:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-06 10:58 ` Mikael Pettersson
2012-10-09 14:05 ` Scott Bambrough
2012-10-09 14:18 ` Mans Rullgard
2012-10-05 14:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 14:33 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-11 0:59 ` Jon Masters
2012-10-11 2:27 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 2:34 ` Jon Masters
2012-10-11 8:21 ` David Laight
2012-10-11 8:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-11 9:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 10:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 10:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-11 10:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:56 ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 11:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 11:47 ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 11:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:51 ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 12:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-11 12:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 13:20 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-11 13:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 13:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-11 13:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 15:23 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-11 15:39 ` David Laight
2012-10-11 16:18 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 8:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-12 9:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 10:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 12:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 11:00 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 11:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 11:18 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2012-10-12 11:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 12:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 14:22 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-12 14:36 ` David Laight
2012-10-12 14:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 15:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-12 15:04 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-12 15:47 ` David Laight
2012-10-12 16:13 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-12 12:16 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 11:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-11 16:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 16:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-11 10:16 ` David Laight
2012-10-11 10:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-05 16:08 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05 7:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-05 10:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-23 16:30 ` Jon Masters
2012-10-23 16:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-23 17:15 ` Jon Masters
2012-10-23 19:14 ` Rob Herring
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