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From: "Ted T. Logan" <tedtheologian@gmail.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Frashman <frashman@freenet.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, "John L. Utz III" <jutz@dmx.com>
Subject: Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1248050339.11930.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h3a8sll15.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Thanks.

Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:

XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
>From April, 2008

and this one works without clicks.

 XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz


lspci lists it as:
03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi

and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.

I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.

Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it
with?

On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> > never worked with this driver.
> > There have always been clicks.
> > 
> > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> > 
> > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> > completely unproductive.
> 
> Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> issue.
> 
> Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> problem.
> 
> Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> you how to fix the issue...
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> > 
> >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >>>
> >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >>
> >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >> the generated file.
> >     >>
> >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >>> works.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> Takashi
> >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-20  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-15 10:55 Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver Frashman
2009-07-15 18:44 ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-16  9:22 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-16 10:31   ` Frashman
2009-07-16 10:37     ` Frank
2009-07-20 12:33       ` Frank Roth
2009-07-20 12:37         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-20 15:00           ` [PATCH]ctxfi: Swapped SURROUND-SIDE channels on emu20k2 Frank Roth
2009-07-20 15:10             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-16 18:30   ` Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver Ted T. Logan
2009-07-16 19:20     ` John L. Utz III
2009-07-19 15:35       ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-19 16:01         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-20  0:38           ` Ted T. Logan [this message]
2009-07-20  5:37             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-20 17:32               ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-20 17:33               ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-20 17:47                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-21  7:23                   ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-23 14:55                     ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                       ` <1248810610.3475.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2009-07-29  6:37                         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05  9:31               ` Ted T. Logan
2009-08-05 18:17                 ` Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver - POC for creative? Ted T. Logan
2009-08-06  6:13                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-09 19:17                     ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-22 17:53           ` Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver Ted T. Logan
2009-07-22 19:33             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-22 19:40               ` Ted T. Logan
2009-07-23  5:30                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-23 17:53                   ` Ted T. Logan
     [not found]   ` <4A5EFEA3.7060603@freenet.de>
2009-07-20 17:50     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-20 18:47       ` Frank Roth
2009-07-21  5:47         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-21 10:52   ` Frank Roth
2009-07-21 11:12     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-21 16:51       ` Frank Roth
2009-07-21 17:09         ` James Courtier-Dutton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-20 15:19 Insaen
2009-08-24 19:43 Christian Esken
2009-08-25  6:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-12 14:07 Christian Esken
2009-08-05 21:21 ` Christian Esken
2009-08-06  7:05   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-11 22:01     ` Ted T. Logan
2009-11-12  7:14       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-17 23:38     ` Ted T. Logan
2009-11-18  6:14       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-11 20:39 Christian Paredes
2009-07-11 21:12 ` Christian Paredes
2009-07-05  8:38 Duke Grable
2009-07-05 12:07 ` Gernot Kohlhaas
2009-07-05 19:10   ` Duke Grable
2009-07-14 16:57 ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-30 17:55 Matthias Diehl
2009-07-04 21:27 ` Christian Esken
2009-07-21  9:53   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-06  1:46 ` 周吴军
2009-06-27 12:05 Christian Esken
2009-07-04 22:19 ` Christian Esken
2009-07-05  7:44   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-05 11:29     ` Christian Esken
2009-07-06  6:26       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-07-12  8:24         ` Christian Esken
2009-06-07 13:08 Gernot Kohlhaas
2009-06-06 19:02 Gernot Kohlhaas
2009-06-08  6:57 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-08 18:26   ` Alexey Bazhin
2009-06-09  2:55     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-04 18:42 MonsieurWeller
2009-06-06  9:14 ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]   ` <1244376026.6985.5.camel@polo-desktop>
2009-06-07 16:10     ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]       ` <1244650915.4173.6.camel@polo-desktop>
2009-06-10 17:42         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-30  8:46 gantonop
2009-05-28  1:24 jimi o'beirne
2009-05-25  7:53 Mario Contreras
2009-05-25  7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-23 12:12 Ge-org Brohammer
2009-05-20 20:48 Marcel Mulders
2009-05-19 14:24 Daniel Bankmann
2009-05-18 22:35 Ralf Koslowski
2009-05-19  7:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18 22:26 Noel Bourke
2009-05-19  7:11 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-20 17:21   ` Noel Bourke
2009-05-20 17:51     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-20 19:19       ` Noel Bourke
2009-05-21  7:01         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18 21:42 daedra
2009-05-19  7:10 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-17 21:41 daedra
2009-05-18  9:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18 21:09   ` Brendan Pike
2009-05-19  2:41 ` William Pitcock
2009-05-14 10:52 Takashi Iwai
2009-05-14 12:07 ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-14 12:20   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-14 12:22   ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-14 12:24     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-14 12:34       ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-14 12:38         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-14 13:07           ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-14 13:28             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-14 13:37               ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-14 15:08                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-19  2:38               ` William Pitcock
2009-05-19  5:34                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-19  6:10                   ` William Pitcock
2009-05-14 13:05 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2009-05-15 15:27   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-15 15:25 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-16  9:34   ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-16 15:07     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18  3:43       ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-18  5:59         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18  6:06           ` wodor
2009-05-18  6:12             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-19  2:42             ` William Pitcock
2009-05-19 15:09               ` Patryk Kowalczyk
2009-05-19 15:16                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-18 10:10           ` Michael (Micksa) Slade
2009-05-18 10:44             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-16 20:52 ` Alexey Bazhin
2009-05-16 20:57   ` Alexey Bazhin
2009-05-16 21:20   ` Alexey Bazhin

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